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DarrickCol — 2009-08-29T14:31:23Z

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- * [http://www.cif.rochester.edu/~uroc/photos/view_album.php?set_albumName=subway-tunnels&page=1 A slideshow from ''Urban infiltrators'' who explored the Rochester Subway]. - * [http://www.skyehigh.com/images/GraffitiPhotos/PhotoAlbum.asp?ShowSub=MitchSubway Skyehigh Subway Photos]
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DarrickCol — 2009-08-29T14:28:13Z

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	+ * [http://darrickc.blogspot.com/search/label/Subway Current photos of the abandoned Rochester Subway].

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BradMandell — 2009-07-23T18:01:59Z

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- * [http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/~rochhist/v36_1974/v36i2.pdf Rochester History Vol XXXVI: The Rochester Subway]	+ * [http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/~rochhist/v36_1974/v36i2.pdf Rochester History Vol XXXVI: The Rochester Subway] - Experiment in Municipal Transit by Andrew Lipman
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GoldenGirl — 2009-05-07T15:47:17Z

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	+ ------ + ''2009-05-07 11:47:17'' [[nbsp]] Does anyone know when the subway is supposed to be filled in? I'd love to explore it before they do. --["Users/GoldenGirl"]

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CorganaSmith — 2009-04-15T03:34:43Z

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	+ + ==Other== + * [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=h&msa=0&msid=117945975786529901709.0004673872523be40794b&ll=43.156217,-77.616541&spn=0.009908,0.022745&z=16 Custom Google Map] of entrances to the subway

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BatGuano — 2009-02-17T17:27:36Z

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- ''2008-12-10 12:26:59'' [[nbsp]] I've been down in the tunnel for work purposes (investigating parts of the tunnel that are deteriorating) and even though it's dark, dank, decrepit and dirty down there, it speaks to many possibilities, one being a revived light-rail system. Of course, the cost of such a system makes the idea of it being constructed nearly laughable. Rochester doesn't have the population or the money to justify a new light rail system. Maybe if President Obama has his way, we'll be able to do something like that in Rochester... But I doubt it. So in the meantime, I'd leave the tunnel for the bums, graffiti artists, paintball players and fearless citizens. There is no urgent need to fill it in, therefore, use that money elsewhere.. maybe start planning a light rail system? Pshaw right. --["Users/JesseGotham"]	+ ''2008-12-10 12:26:59'' [[nbsp]] I've been down in the tunnel for work purposes (investigating parts of the tunnel that are deteriorating) and even though it's dark, dank, decrepit and dirty down there, it speaks to many possibilities, one being a revived light-rail system. Of course, the cost of such a system makes the idea of it being constructed nearly laughable. Rochester doesn't have the population or the money to justify a new light rail system. Maybe if President Obama has his way, we'll be able to do something like that in Rochester... But I doubt it. So in the meantime, I'd leave the tunnel for the bums, graffiti artists, paintball players and fearless citizens. There is no urgent need to fill it in, therefore, use that money elsewhere.. maybe start planning a light rail system? Pshaw right. --["Users/BatGuano"]

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BatGuano — 2008-12-10T17:26:59Z

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	+ ------ + ''2008-12-10 12:26:59'' [[nbsp]] I've been down in the tunnel for work purposes (investigating parts of the tunnel that are deteriorating) and even though it's dark, dank, decrepit and dirty down there, it speaks to many possibilities, one being a revived light-rail system. Of course, the cost of such a system makes the idea of it being constructed nearly laughable. Rochester doesn't have the population or the money to justify a new light rail system. Maybe if President Obama has his way, we'll be able to do something like that in Rochester... But I doubt it. So in the meantime, I'd leave the tunnel for the bums, graffiti artists, paintball players and fearless citizens. There is no urgent need to fill it in, therefore, use that money elsewhere.. maybe start planning a light rail system? Pshaw right. --["Users/JesseGotham"]

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AndrewAnissi — 2008-10-15T20:16:32Z

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- * The homeless currently residing in the subway would be displaced. Our city currently has no emergency ["Hypothermia Shelter"].	+ * If Rochester is ever to grow, it will eventually need a subway system again, and filling in the existing tunnels would make it much more difficult to install a new subway system. The existing tunnels could make a new subway system fairly easy to construct.

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MichaelGovernale — 2008-10-11T03:17:20Z

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- * [http://www.rochestersubway.com "The Rochester Subway" Poster - a modern day map of the subway and proposed extensions].	+ * [http://www.rochestersubway.com "The Rochester Subway" Poster - a modern day Rochester Subway map with proposed extensions].

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PhilNg — 2008-09-01T19:56:01Z

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	+ ------ + ''2008-09-01 15:56:01'' [[nbsp]] Now one might wonder where all the track went - it was scavenged and is now being used as the main track in the New York Museum of Transportation. --["Users/PhilNg"]

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BradMandell — 2008-08-10T11:53:13Z

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- \|\|<align="left" valign="top">[[TableOfContents]]\|\|Rochester once had an underground rapid transit system, called the Rochester Subway[[FootNote(Contemporary photos however show that, like Boston's ''Green Line'', it used single streetcar vehicles -- so, using today's terms, it would be considered a light rail system.)]]. It is an incredible experience, an urban exploration opportunity rivaling the offerings of almost any other city[[FootNote(New York City's Freedom Tunnel is for children)]]. As such it has become a popular destination for photographers and thrillseekers, along with being home for a sizable portion of the city's homeless.[[BR]][[BR]]The city currently plans to transform the former ["Broad Street Aqueduct"] portion, and section beneath the ["Rundel Memorial Library Building"] into an underground walkway with a transportation museum and shops.\|\|	+ \|\|<align="left" valign="top">[[TableOfContents]]\|\|["Rochester"] once had an underground rapid transit system, called the Rochester Subway[[FootNote(Contemporary photos however show that, like Boston's ''Green Line'', it used single streetcar vehicles -- so, using today's terms, it would be considered a light rail system.)]]. It is an incredible experience, an urban exploration opportunity rivaling the offerings of almost any other city[[FootNote(New York City's Freedom Tunnel is for children)]]. As such it has become a popular destination for photographers and thrillseekers, along with being home for a sizable portion of the city's homeless.[[BR]][[BR]]The city currently plans to transform the former ["Broad Street Aqueduct"] portion, and section beneath the ["Rundel Memorial Library Building"] into an underground walkway with a transportation museum and shops.\|\|
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MichaelGovernale — 2008-08-05T15:43:49Z

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	+ * [http://www.rochestersubway.com "The Rochester Subway" Poster - a modern day map of the subway and proposed extensions].

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CorganaSmith — 2008-07-16T15:37:25Z

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- * [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6739722593682403697&hl=en "Walking the Rails" (Google Video)] or [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hGDlR6oboE (YouTube)] A short documentary on exploring the abandoned subway tunnels.	+ * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hGDlR6oboE "Walking the Rails" (YouTube)] or [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6739722593682403697&hl=en (Google Video)] A short documentary on exploring the abandoned subway tunnels.

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RyanTucker — 2008-06-18T21:13:36Z

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	+ * [http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wxxi/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1297310&sectionID=1 Rochester Wants to Fill Part of Erie Canal Bed], ["WXXI"], 2008-06-11. "The City of Rochester says it will have to close one of the four lanes on West Broad Street this month, and the fix is to fill in the abandoned subway tunnel that lies beneath it."

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ChristopherMoshier — 2007-10-13T15:57:29Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-10-13 11:57:29'' [[nbsp]] "It would needlessly destroy property that could otherwise be put to use to benefit the city. The proposed "Broad Street Tunnel Project" will cost the city $21 million dollars to complete. A small fraction of that money could be used to seal off and maintain the tunnel for several years, and there are lots of things in the city which would be better uses of the $21 million, such as the Rochester Schools Problems." + + That's a silly statement after the whole fast fairy nightmare. Why wasn’t that money spent on City Schools? --["ChristopherMoshier"]

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IdSaysgo — 2007-09-20T17:40:53Z

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IdSaysgo — 2007-09-20T17:40:25Z

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LesleyChen — 2007-08-15T15:04:08Z

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AlexanderGartley — 2007-07-25T19:32:41Z

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- * [http://www.rit.edu/~mrl6892/trainsite/ Incredible Flash QTVR tour by Mauvis Ledford]

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EastSideStephen — 2007-03-08T20:59:03Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-03-08 15:59:03'' [[nbsp]] The End of the Line is a really fascinating DVD if you're into Rochester history. It gives an interesting view of our fair city during the time the subway was in service. --["EastSideStephen"]

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EastSideStephen — 2007-03-08T20:49:55Z

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EastSideStephen — 2007-03-08T20:49:11Z

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- * [http://www.animatusstudio.com/subway/index.html "The End of the Line" documentary] - Now available as a Special Edition DVD from Animatus Studio! (The VHS version is available through the Public Library.)	+ * [http://www.animatusstudio.com/subway/index.html "The End of the Line" documentary] - Now available as a Special Edition DVD from Animatus Studio! (Also available on VHS or DVD through the Public Library.)

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AdamDewitz — 2007-01-31T18:24:24Z

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- This portion of the article represents an attempt to describe the subway today as it exists today. The sections listed below generally follow an East to West path through the tunnel. In place of formal names for each section, they are generally reffered to by either their historic significance or the buildings above them. Feel free to rename as you find appropriate.	+ This portion of the article represents an attempt to describe the subway today as it exists today. The sections listed below generally follow an East to West path through the tunnel. In place of formal names for each section, they are generally referred to by either their historic significance or the buildings above them. Feel free to rename as you find appropriate.
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- Beyond the chainlink fence bordering ["South Avenue" South Ave] lies an easy entrance to the subway. This location is found directly behind (and beneath) ["Dinosaur Bar-B-Que"]. From the safety of the sidewalk, you will be able catch a breathtaking view of this crumbling and overgrown entryway. Along the right wall is a small building that has been thoroughly ravaged by time and vandalism. ["Graffiti"] also appears along this wall. Entering here will take you beneath ["Court Street"].	+ Beyond the chain-link fence bordering ["South Avenue" South Ave] lies an easy entrance to the subway. This location is found directly behind (and beneath) ["Dinosaur Bar-B-Que"]. From the safety of the sidewalk, you will be able catch a breathtaking view of this crumbling and overgrown entryway. Along the right wall is a small building that has been thoroughly ravaged by time and vandalism. ["Graffiti"] also appears along this wall. Entering here will take you beneath ["Court Street"].
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- Following the Aqueduct you travel into darkness, natural light disappearing completely. You arrive at a wall with a single small door for yourself to enter through. Having remained in use many years longer than the previous sections, the decay of this section has a unique quality. Originally used for paper delivery for ["Gannett News"] (now: ["Democrat and Chronicle"]) and later storage, the remaining equipment also lends itself to the different sense of athmosphere this section has. Along the left wall you'll find a loading dock stretching across this space. Traveling through this section of the tunnel you'll arrive at another wall on the far side that allows you to exit through a large garage style opening.	+ Following the Aqueduct you travel into darkness, natural light disappearing completely. You arrive at a wall with a single small door for yourself to enter through. Having remained in use many years longer than the previous sections, the decay of this section has a unique quality. Originally used for paper delivery for ["Gannett News"] (now: ["Democrat & Chronicle"]) and later storage, the remaining equipment also lends itself to the different sense of athmosphere this section has. Along the left wall you'll find a loading dock stretching across this space. Traveling through this section of the tunnel you'll arrive at another wall on the far side that allows you to exit through a large garage style opening.

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JustinHanag — 2006-10-18T18:08:05Z

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- * [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6739722593682403697&hl=en "Walking the Rails" (Google Video)] - *[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hGDlR6oboE (YouTube)] A short documentary on exploring the abandoned subway tunnels.	+ * [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6739722593682403697&hl=en "Walking the Rails" (Google Video)] or [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hGDlR6oboE (YouTube)] A short documentary on exploring the abandoned subway tunnels.

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FarMcKon — 2006-09-02T00:58:25Z

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	+ == Videos == + * [http://www.rit.edu/~mrl6892/trainsite/ Incredible Flash QTVR tour by Mauvis Ledford] + * [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6739722593682403697&hl=en "Walking the Rails" (Google Video)] + *[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hGDlR6oboE (YouTube)] A short documentary on exploring the abandoned subway tunnels.

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- As you reach the end of the tunnel, or the West Entrance, there will be manholes along the tracks. Be careful as most, if not all, of the manhole covers have been removed. The tunnel ends at the intersection of Brown and Broad streets. This access point has been fenced in the past, so be prepared to turn back.	+ As you reach the end of the tunnel, or the West Entrance, there will be manholes along the tracks. Be careful as most, if not all, of the manhole covers have been removed. The tunnel ends at the intersection of Brown and Broad streets. This access point has been fenced in the past, so be prepared to turn back.
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TomMaszerowski — 2006-04-16T22:33:59Z

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TomMaszerowski — 2006-04-16T22:32:17Z

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TomMaszerowski — 2006-04-16T22:26:30Z

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- [[Thumbnail(TunnelWest.jpg,right,254 "Looking into the tunnel's West end. - Photo by ["TomMaszerowski"]")]] - This section starts with near complete darkness, light only visible coming in through a street level drain. There are fewer noteworthy strutures from this point onward. The tunnel opens to light and fresh air once again near ["Nick Tahou's"]. It is possible to enter and exit at this location, even bring a vehicle into the tunnel.	+ [[Thumbnail(TunnelWest.jpg,right,254 "Looking into the tunnel's West section. - Photo by ["TomMaszerowski"]")]] + This section starts with near complete darkness, light only visible coming in through a street level drain. There are fewer noteworthy strutures from this point onward. The tunnel opens to light and fresh air once again near ["Nick Tahou's"]. It is possible to enter and exit at this location, even bring a vehicle into the tunnel. Unlike the Court Street entrance, the original tracks are still in place here.
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TomMaszerowski — 2006-01-22T20:06:30Z

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TomMaszerowski — 2006-01-21T23:04:33Z

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TomMaszerowski — 2006-01-21T22:53:25Z

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TomMaszerowski — 2005-12-26T18:55:49Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-11-28T19:46:33Z

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RottenChester — 2005-11-28T17:03:48Z

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FarMcKon — 2005-11-10T23:22:03Z

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MikeBoas — 2005-10-10T19:02:16Z

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- * [http://www.animatusstudio.com/videoproduction/subwayvideo.html Preview of a documentary on the Rochester Subway] - The full (VHS) version is available through the Public Library. Check it out, it's pretty well done.	+ * [http://www.animatusstudio.com/subway/index.html "The End of the Line" documentary] - Now available as a Special Edition DVD from Animatus Studio

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RobertPolyn — 2005-08-17T22:51:50Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-08-17T22:47:54Z

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TomMaszerowski — 2005-08-16T22:40:50Z

Fixed a photo date

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JayUnnikrishnan — 2005-08-14T19:46:27Z

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JayUnnikrishnan — 2005-08-14T19:44:01Z

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BretteLuck — 2005-07-22T17:43:21Z

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- The abandoned subway is without a doubt one of the creepiest and coolest places Ive ever been. Check out its [http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/~rochhist/v36_1974/v36i2.pdf history], which has a map at the end. We entered from where the southwest side of the Broad St. Bridge meets the riverbank. Make sure to bring a flashlight and announce when you move from room to room. -- ["BretteLuck"]

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KristinPerrah — 2005-07-22T15:23:41Z

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TobinFricke — 2005-06-15T18:45:28Z

Added "In the Media" section with link to current op-ed

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	+ == In the Media == + * [http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050614/OPINION02/506140315/1039/OPINION Filling in subway would hurt city's past and future], op-ed in the ["Democrat & Chronicle"], 2005-06-14 +

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StephanMokey — 2005-06-13T15:34:51Z

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- * Rumor has it this project is just a 'gimme' to the highway and construction lobby to keep their workforce employed somewhere during the winter, since the upstate economy is bad. These rumors, to my knowledge, are unsubstinated.	+ * Rumor has it this project is just a 'gimme' to the highway and construction lobby to keep their workforce employed somewhere during the winter, since the upstate economy is bad. These rumors, to my knowledge, are unsubstantiated.

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JackCalcines — 2005-06-12T19:01:51Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-06-06T17:51:18Z

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- - '''New and Time Sensitive''' SECR is hosting a free tour of the Subway June 5 at 4 PM. Starts at the back parking lot of Nick Tahou's at 320 West Main Street. Bring a flashlight and good walking shoes. NO sandals. Cameras are encouraged. More info at their website, listed above.

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JackCalcines — 2005-06-04T18:29:30Z

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BretteLuck — 2005-05-31T20:56:31Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-30T15:38:15Z

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- Between this section and the aqueduct is another small section that stretches East under ["Broad Street"]. You won't find much here beyond the twisted remains of a metal staircase and homeless living in a raise alcove along the North wall.	+ Between this section and the aqueduct is another small section that stretches East under ["Broad Street"]. You won't find much here beyond the twisted remains of a metal staircase and homeless living in a raised alcove along the North wall.

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T17:04:54Z

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- * Found an urban art center in the tunnel, embracing and showcasing the artwork that has naturally been drawn to that location.[[FootNote(Ok, I don't think this is actually a proposal, but it should be. The city really needs to think about offering something with more draw than a transit museum if it actually wants to bring people into our city. This is exactly the type of thing that would allow us to stand out in a positive way. Who wouldn't want to visit a museum showcasing graffiti in an abandoned subway? -- RobertPolyn)]]	+ * Found an urban art center in the tunnel, embracing and showcasing the artwork that has naturally been drawn to that location.[[FootNote(Ok, I don't think this is actually a proposal, but it should be. The city really needs to think about offering something with more draw than a transit museum if it actually wants to bring people here. This is exactly the type of thing that would allow us to stand out in a positive way. Who wouldn't want to visit a museum showcasing graffiti in an abandoned subway? -- RobertPolyn)]]

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T17:03:34Z

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	+ * Historical + * [http://www.animatusstudio.com/videoproduction/subwayvideo.html Preview of a documentary on the Rochester Subway] + * [http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/~rochhist/v36_1974/v36i2.pdf Rochester History Vol XXXVI: The Rochester Subway] + * [http://www.railroad.net/articles/railfanning/rochestersubway/index.php Railroad.net's page devoted to the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.vintageviews.org/vv-tl/maps/pages/subway.html 1928 map of the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.railroad.net/articles/railfanning/rochestersubway/media/rsb_proposed_map.gif 1955 map of the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.vintageviews.org/vv-tl/pages/broad_st.htm Pictures from the construction of the tunnels]. + * Current + * [http://www.rit.edu/~mrl6892/trainsite/ Incredible Flash QTVR tour by Mauvis Ledford] + * [http://www.cif.rochester.edu/~uroc/photos/view_album.php?set_albumName=subway-tunnels&page=1 A slideshow from ''Urban infiltrators'' who explored the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://infiltration.org/transit-roch.html The Beautiful Abandoned Subway of Rochester, NY], from Infiltration.org + * [http://www.livejournal.com/users/hypostatization/60312.html September 2005 Photos] + * [http://www.ggw.org/rrtc/ Site of the ''Rochester Rail Transit Committee].
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BretteLuck — 2005-05-29T16:09:48Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T15:13:53Z

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FarMcKon — 2005-05-29T13:15:38Z

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- * It would needlessly destroy property that could otherwise be put to use to benefit the city. Funds don't currently exist to redevelop the subway, but the money being used to fill it could easily be used to maintain it for several years while funds are sought.	+ * It would needlessly destroy property that could otherwise be put to use to benefit the city. The proposed "Broad Street Tunnel Project" will cost the city $21 million dollars to complete. A small fraction of that money could be used to seal off and maintain the tunnel for several years, and there are '''lots''' of things in the city which would be better uses of the $21 million, such as the ["Rochester Schools Problems"]. + * Private Studies indicate it would cost around $24 million to 'completely repair' it[[FootNote(From the D&C Article)]]. + * Rumor has it this project is just a 'gimme' to the highway and construction lobby to keep their workforce employed somewhere during the winter, since the upstate economy is bad. These rumors, to my knowledge, are unsubstinated.

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T02:34:00Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T02:09:42Z

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- In 1900 the ["Erie Canal"] was re-routed to by-pass downtown Rochester, and in 1919 the abandoned canal was bought to serve as the core of the subway. The subway was built below, and the subway's roof was turned into ["Broad Street"]. The city grew, but the subway did not. Since most subway traffic is people commuting to work, the subway stopped serving its primary purpose, and it was abandoned.	+ In 1900 the ["Erie Canal"] was re-routed to by-pass downtown Rochester, and in 1919 the abandoned canal was bought to serve as the core of the subway. The subway was built below, and the subway's roof was turned into ["Broad Street"]. The city grew, but the subway did not. Since most subway traffic is people commuting to work, the subway stopped serving its primary purpose, and it was abandoned. Passenger service ceased June 30, 1956. The western end was still used for freight through the 1970s, and ["Gannett"] used the tunnel for delivery of newsprint.

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T02:01:46Z

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- Following the Aqueduct you travel into darkness, natural light disappearing completely. You arrive at a wall with a single small door for yourself to enter through. Having remained in use many years longer than the previous sections, the decay of this section has a unique quality. Originally used for paper delivery for ["Gannett News"] (now: ["Democrat and Chronicle"]) and later storage, the remaining equipment also lends itself to the different sense of athmosphere this section has. Along the left wall you'll find a loading dock stretching across this space. Traveling through this section of the tunnel you'll arrive at another wall on the far side that allows you to exit through a large garage type opening.	+ Following the Aqueduct you travel into darkness, natural light disappearing completely. You arrive at a wall with a single small door for yourself to enter through. Having remained in use many years longer than the previous sections, the decay of this section has a unique quality. Originally used for paper delivery for ["Gannett News"] (now: ["Democrat and Chronicle"]) and later storage, the remaining equipment also lends itself to the different sense of athmosphere this section has. Along the left wall you'll find a loading dock stretching across this space. Traveling through this section of the tunnel you'll arrive at another wall on the far side that allows you to exit through a large garage style opening.

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T02:01:03Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T01:54:23Z

Upload of image gannettloadingdock.jpg.

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T01:53:03Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T01:47:03Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T01:34:49Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T01:33:31Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T01:15:01Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T01:08:41Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T00:50:04Z

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- Beyond the chainlink fence bordering ["Court Street"] lies an easy entrance to the subway. This location is found directly behind (and beneath) ["Dinosaur Bar-B-Que"]. From the safety of the sidewalk, you will be able catch a breathtaking view of this crumbling and overgrown entryway. Along the right wall is a small building that has been thoroughly ravaged by time and vandalism. ["Graffiti"] also appears along this wall.	+ Beyond the chainlink fence bordering ["South Avenue" South Ave] lies an easy entrance to the subway. This location is found directly behind (and beneath) ["Dinosaur Bar-B-Que"]. From the safety of the sidewalk, you will be able catch a breathtaking view of this crumbling and overgrown entryway. Along the right wall is a small building that has been thoroughly ravaged by time and vandalism. ["Graffiti"] also appears along this wall. Entering here will take you beneath ["Court Street"].
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	+ This location has some of the most interesting remaining structures. It is also the main section used as makeshift housing for the city's homeless. The first structure you're likely to notice is the massive stairwell rising to the ceiling in the center of the tunnel. Not long after you'll notice on your left hand side a pool of water crisscrossed by a catwalk pouring out into the ["Genesee River"] (this is part of the former ["Johnson and Seymour Millrace"]). Traveling further into the tunnel beneath the ["Rundel Memorial Library Building"], you'll find a small building along the right wall. Behind it is a terror inspiring opening in the wall, just large enough for the average person to crawl inside. +

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T00:23:13Z

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- [[Thumbnail(bridge.jpg, right, "Part of the tunnel that goes under Broad Street. By ["RobertPolyn" Robert Polyn].")]] - [[Thumbnail(water.jpg, right, "An underground pool. By ["RobertPolyn" Robert Polyn].")]] - Rochester once had an underground rapid transit system, called the '''Rochester Subway'''. Contemporary photos however show that, like Boston's ''Green Line'', it used single streetcar vehicles -- so, using today's terms, it would be considered a light rail system.	+ \|\|<align="left" valign="top">[[TableOfContents]]\|\|Rochester once had an underground rapid transit system, called the '''Rochester Subway'''. Contemporary photos however show that, like Boston's ''Green Line'', it used single streetcar vehicles -- so, using today's terms, it would be considered a light rail system.[[BR]][[BR]]The city currently plans to transform the former ["Broad Street Aqueduct"] portion, and section beneath the ["Rundel Memorial Library Building"] into an underground walkway with a transportation museum and shops.\|\| + == History == + In 1900 the ["Erie Canal"] was re-routed to by-pass downtown Rochester, and in 1919 the abandoned canal was bought to serve as the core of the subway. The subway was built below, and the subway's roof was turned into ["Broad Street"]. The city grew, but the subway did not. Since most subway traffic is people commuting to work, the subway stopped serving its primary purpose, and it was abandoned.
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- In 1900 the ["Erie Canal"] was re-routed to by-pass downtown Rochester, and in 1919 the abandoned canal was bought to serve as the core of the subway. The subway was built below, and the subway's roof was turned into ''Broad Street''. The city grew, but the subway did not. Since most subway traffic is people commuting to work, the subway stopped serving its primary purpose, and it was abandoned.	+ == Sections == + This portion of the article represents an attempt to describe the subway today as it exists today. The sections listed below generally follow an East to West path through the tunnel. In place of formal names for each section, they are generally reffered to by either their historic significance or the buildings above them. + === East Entrance === + === Rundel Memorial Library === + ==== Johnson and Seymour Millrace ==== + [[Thumbnail(water.jpg, right, "An underground pool, part of the former ["Johnson and Seymour Millrace"].")]] + === Broad Street Aqueduct === + [[Thumbnail(bridge.jpg, right, "["Broad Street Aqueduct"]. Image by ["RobertPolyn" Robert Polyn].")]] + This section of the tunnel + === Gannett Building === + === West Entrance === + == Controversy == + -->[http://www.rochesterdandc.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20050423&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=504230337&Ref=AR The subway is scheduled to be partially filled in with dirt!]<--
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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-07T17:12:21Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-07T05:38:58Z

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TobinFricke — 2005-04-24T01:08:41Z

The abandoned subway is scheduled to be filled in with dirt!!!

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TobinFricke — 2005-04-22T01:35:35Z

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RyDahl — 2005-03-20T18:32:06Z

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TobinFricke — 2005-03-20T17:18:16Z

+Infiltration, RRTC

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- The abandoned subway is without a doubt one of the creepiest and coolest places Ive ever been. Check out its [http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/~rochhist/v36_1974/v36i2.pdf history], which has a map at the end. We entered from where the southwest side of the Broad St. Bridge meets the riverbank. Make sure to bring a flashlight and announce when you move from room to room.	+ Rochester once had an underground rapid transit system, called the '''Rochester Subway'''. Contemporary photos however show that, like Boston's ''Green Line'', it used single streetcar vehicles -- so, using today's terms, it would be considered a light rail system. + + In 1900 the ["Erie Canal"] was re-routed to by-pass downtown Rochester, and in 1919 the abandoned canal was bought to serve as the core of the subway. The subway was built below. And the subway's roof was turned into ''Broad Street''. + + There are proposals to build a new rapid transit system in Rochester which would use some of the old tunnels. + + Another proposal that has received Federal funding is to transform the Broad Street Acquaduct into an underground walkway with a Rochester Transportation Museum. + + == Links == + + * [http://www.animatusstudio.com/videoproduction/subwayvideo.html Preview of a documentary on the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.railroad.net/articles/railfanning/rochestersubway/index.php Railroad.net's page devoted to the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.cif.rochester.edu/~uroc/photos/view_album.php?set_albumName=subway-tunnels&page=1 A slideshow from ''Urban infiltrators'' who explored the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.vintageviews.org/vv-tl/maps/pages/subway.html 1928 map of the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.railroad.net/articles/railfanning/rochestersubway/media/rsb_proposed_map.gif 1955 map of the Rochester Subway]. + * [http://www.ggw.org/rrtc/ Site of the ''Rochester Rail Transit Committee]. + * [http://www.vintageviews.org/vv-tl/pages/broad_st.htm Pictures from the construction of the tunnels]. + + == Comments == + The abandoned subway is without a doubt one of the creepiest and coolest places Ive ever been. Check out its [http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/~rochhist/v36_1974/v36i2.pdf history], which has a map at the end. We entered from where the southwest side of the Broad St. Bridge meets the riverbank. Make sure to bring a flashlight and announce when you move from room to room. -- ["BretteLuck"]

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