Recent Changes for "City Wishlist/Talk" - Rochester Wikihttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/TalkRecent Changes of the page "City Wishlist/Talk" on Rochester Wiki.en-us https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=12&version2=13&ts=1436809973City Wishlist/Talk2015-07-13T17:52:53Zsub619 <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 12: </td> <td> Line 12: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ You waited, now it's here! ["West Elm"] will be opening soon at the ["Culver Road Armory"]</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ You waited, now it's here! The city is currently filling in the Inner Loop to create an at-grade boulevard which should be completed around 2018!</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=11&version2=12&ts=1179399702City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-17T11:01:42Zrottenchesteradded comment. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Though an "outdoor" dog park would be nice. --["Rottenchester"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=10&version2=11&ts=1179347490City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-16T20:31:30ZShelbyWhite <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 25: </td> <td> Line 25: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Ummmm, no. Disrespectful disagreement would be me starting a flame war with Travis and telling him he's a silly apologizer for what I believe to be poor publications, but I haven't and I don't think Travis is a silly apologizer. He stated his opinion and I defended mine, without a personal attack or inane clarifications of anything he's posted. Sweetie pie. --["ShelbyWhite"]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=9&version2=10&ts=1179346307City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-16T20:11:47ZadamdewitzComment on light rail never working. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ <br> + Can you provided references the studies you alluded to in your comment? In Minneapolis, the Hiawatha Light Rail line has been a success beyond what was initially projected. Using ridership as one metric of success, the line accounted for 9.4 million rides in 2006.[[footnote(http://www.metrotransit.org/news/stories/01_07_ridership.asp)]] Another metric of success could be further investment in light rail: A new line is now in the works that will connect St. Paul and Minneapolis. --["AdamDewitz"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=8&version2=9&ts=1179342990City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-16T19:16:30ZtravisowensForgot to tag my rebuttle <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Sounds like a massive waste of tax payers money --["TravisOwens"]<span>]</span> </td> <td> <span>+</span> Sounds like a massive waste of tax payers money --["TravisOwens"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> We have two, the City and The Insider (my fav) and I'd hardly say they suck, they've actually very good. If you want to see a bad weekly, go to Syracuse. Perhaps you referring to something like the Pennysaver? </td> <td> <span>+</span> We have two, the City and The Insider (my fav) and I'd hardly say they suck, they've actually very good. If you want to see a bad weekly, go to Syracuse. Perhaps you referring to something like the Pennysaver?<span>&nbsp;--["TravisOwens"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=7&version2=8&ts=1179342013City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-16T19:00:13Zeastsidestephenjoining the conversation <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ummmmmm, one does not "respectfully disagree" by saying the object of another's praise sucks. That's called disrespectful disagreement, sweetie pie. I'm not saying you don't have the right to be curt, but let's call a spade a spade. Anyhow, I'm with Travis here. I've seen the publications that other cities of comparable size have to offer, and they make ''City'' look pretty good. --["EastSideStephen"]<br> + <br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=6&version2=7&ts=1179340473City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-16T18:34:33Zadamdewitzthreaded comments for easier readability <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Numerous studies and real life examples of other cities have proven monorail type systems are a failure as the average person WILL NOT give up their private vehicles. Light Rail/Monorail/trains systems NEVER WORK as proven by cities who have already implemented them; the same is true for ferries as you've already seen. The city's bus system has enough problems without tax payer funded competition crushing it even more. Light rail vehicels work in Disney World, and that's about it, go ask Seattle. --["TravisOwens"] </td> <td> <span>+ </span> Numerous studies and real life examples of other cities have proven monorail type systems are a failure as the average person WILL NOT give up their private vehicles. Light Rail/Monorail/trains systems NEVER WORK as proven by cities who have already implemented them; the same is true for ferries as you've already seen. The city's bus system has enough problems without tax payer funded competition crushing it even more. Light rail vehicels work in Disney World, and that's about it, go ask Seattle. --["TravisOwens"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 5: </td> <td> Line 5: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Sounds like a massive waste of tax payers money --["TravisOwens"]] </td> <td> <span>+ </span> Sounds like a massive waste of tax payers money --["TravisOwens"]] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 8: </td> <td> Line 8: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> It's VERY unlikely anything will ever be built on Kodak park as I've heard the land does not pass clean land requirements, which don't apply while one owns the land but does it you try ti sell it. Cleaning the land costs more than they could ever make selling it, therefore it won't be sold. --["TravisOwens"] </td> <td> <span>+ </span> It's VERY unlikely anything will ever be built on Kodak park as I've heard the land does not pass clean land requirements, which don't apply while one owns the land but does it you try ti sell it. Cleaning the land costs more than they could ever make selling it, therefore it won't be sold. --["TravisOwens"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 11: </td> <td> Line 11: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Totally absurd! --["TravisOwens"] </td> <td> <span>+ </span> Totally absurd! --["TravisOwens"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 14: </td> <td> Line 14: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> This would cost over 100 million dollars easily, and would only erect new (albeit pretty) that are just as much of a "barrier" as the road is. Such money could be used in a hundred better ways, and removing the inner loop would absolutely not make Rochester a better city. --["TravisOwens"] </td> <td> <span>+ </span> This would cost over 100 million dollars easily, and would only erect new (albeit pretty) that are just as much of a "barrier" as the road is. Such money could be used in a hundred better ways, and removing the inner loop would absolutely not make Rochester a better city. --["TravisOwens"] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> We have two, the City and The Insider (my fav) and I'd hardly say they suck, they've actually very good. If you want to see a bad weekly, go to Syracuse. Perhaps you referring to something like the Pennysaver? </td> <td> <span>+ </span> We have two, the City and The Insider (my fav) and I'd hardly say they suck, they've actually very good. If you want to see a bad weekly, go to Syracuse. Perhaps you referring to something like the Pennysaver? </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Typical Rochester response.. "At least we're not Syracuse." The City and The Insider only seem good compared to other upstate weeklies and due to the fact that the D&amp;C doesn't have the staff to actually report, just reprint the wire. The weeklies in Rochester are neither gritty or interesting, just mildly entertaining; in a word, safe. But then again, I'm not in their demographic. I don't live on the fringes of downtown Rochester, I'm not a pseudo-hip 20- or 30-something with an sophomoric understanding of local sub-cultures, I don't visit Park Ave on the weekends to peruse the cute little boutiques and sip on bubble tea and I don't suffer from a common problem with people in Rochester, a seeming inability to stand up and ask for something better. I respectfully disagree with you on this Travis, they suck. </td> <td> <span>+ </span> Typical Rochester response.. "At least we're not Syracuse." The City and The Insider only seem good compared to other upstate weeklies and due to the fact that the D&amp;C doesn't have the staff to actually report, just reprint the wire. The weeklies in Rochester are neither gritty or interesting, just mildly entertaining; in a word, safe. But then again, I'm not in their demographic. I don't live on the fringes of downtown Rochester, I'm not a pseudo-hip 20- or 30-something with an sophomoric understanding of local sub-cultures, I don't visit Park Ave on the weekends to peruse the cute little boutiques and sip on bubble tea and I don't suffer from a common problem with people in Rochester, a seeming inability to stand up and ask for something better. I respectfully disagree with you on this Travis, they suck.<span>&nbsp;--["ShelbyWhite"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=5&version2=6&ts=1179340093City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-16T18:28:13ZShelbyWhiteresponse to Travis <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 19: </td> <td> Line 19: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ Typical Rochester response.. "At least we're not Syracuse." The City and The Insider only seem good compared to other upstate weeklies and due to the fact that the D&amp;C doesn't have the staff to actually report, just reprint the wire. The weeklies in Rochester are neither gritty or interesting, just mildly entertaining; in a word, safe. But then again, I'm not in their demographic. I don't live on the fringes of downtown Rochester, I'm not a pseudo-hip 20- or 30-something with an sophomoric understanding of local sub-cultures, I don't visit Park Ave on the weekends to peruse the cute little boutiques and sip on bubble tea and I don't suffer from a common problem with people in Rochester, a seeming inability to stand up and ask for something better. I respectfully disagree with you on this Travis, they suck.<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=4&version2=5&ts=1179337723City Wishlist/Talk2007-05-16T17:48:43ZtravisowensAdded a rebuttle <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 3: </td> <td> Line 3: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- </span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 16: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * An alternative weekly that doesn't suck.<br> + We have two, the City and The Insider (my fav) and I'd hardly say they suck, they've actually very good. If you want to see a bad weekly, go to Syracuse. Perhaps you referring to something like the Pennysaver?<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=3&version2=4&ts=1176215104City Wishlist/Talk2007-04-10T14:25:04Ztravisowensfinalzed a comment <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 2: </td> <td> Line 2: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> Numerous studies and real life examples of other cities have proven monorail type systems are a failure as the average person WILL NOT give up their private vehicles. The city's bus system has enough problems without tax paye<span>d</span> funded competition crushing it even more. --["TravisOwens"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> Numerous studies and real life examples of other cities have proven monorail type systems are a failure as the average person WILL NOT give up their private vehicles. <span>Light Rail/Monorail/trains systems NEVER WORK as proven by cities who have already implemented them; the same is true for ferries as you've already seen. </span>The city's bus system has enough problems without tax paye<span>r</span> funded competition crushing it even more.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;Light rail vehicels work in Disney World, and that's about it, go ask Seattle. </span> --["TravisOwens"]<span><br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=2&version2=3&ts=1176214813City Wishlist/Talk2007-04-10T14:20:13Ztravisowensfixed formatting <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> * Light Rail connecting different parts of our area - one example is a plan is at [http://ggw.org/rrtc/ Rochester Rail Transit Committee] which is a proposed line to ["Charlotte"] beach. </td> <td> <span>+ </span> * Light Rail connecting different parts of our area - one example is a plan is at [http://ggw.org/rrtc/ Rochester Rail Transit Committee] which is a proposed line to ["Charlotte"] beach. </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=1&version2=2&ts=1176214748City Wishlist/Talk2007-04-10T14:19:08Ztravisowensadded one more <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Dismantling of the ["Inner Loop"], an artificial and antiquated barrier between downtown and the neighborhoods.<br> + This would cost over 100 million dollars easily, and would only erect new (albeit pretty) that are just as much of a "barrier" as the road is. Such money could be used in a hundred better ways, and removing the inner loop would absolutely not make Rochester a better city. --["TravisOwens"]<br> + </span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/City_Wishlist/Talk?action=diff&version1=0&version2=1&ts=1176214708City Wishlist/Talk2007-04-10T14:18:28ZtravisowensPut my rantings here <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for City Wishlist/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ * Light Rail connecting different parts of our area - one example is a plan is at [http://ggw.org/rrtc/ Rochester Rail Transit Committee] which is a proposed line to ["Charlotte"] beach.<br> + Numerous studies and real life examples of other cities have proven monorail type systems are a failure as the average person WILL NOT give up their private vehicles. The city's bus system has enough problems without tax payed funded competition crushing it even more. --["TravisOwens"]<br> + <br> + * A 24-hour indoor dog park.<br> + Sounds like a massive waste of tax payers money --["TravisOwens"]]<br> + <br> + * A local Ikea or West Elm. (…in the works, possibly on old Kodak Park.)<br> + It's VERY unlikely anything will ever be built on Kodak park as I've heard the land does not pass clean land requirements, which don't apply while one owns the land but does it you try ti sell it. Cleaning the land costs more than they could ever make selling it, therefore it won't be sold. --["TravisOwens"]<br> + <br> + * Turning the ["Inner Loop"] into a canal- gondolas and water taxis in the summer, skating in the winter.<br> + Totally absurd! --["TravisOwens"]<br> + <br> + [[Comments(Talk about the parent page:)]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>