Recent Changes for "Diners/Talk" - Rochester Wiki

Diners/Talk

BradMandell — 2010-02-20T17:50:30Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 42:	Line 42:
	+ ------ + ''2010-02-20 12:50:30'' [[nbsp]] I would go with the definition given in Wikipedia and include those with a counter-seating section, those built on the old Diner building style, and those that are self-identifying in their name or website about/intro. Many of the current pages are really ["Family Restaurants"] (so identified), which is a reasonable alternative description for lots of non-fast-food restaurants in our area. See my suggestions in ["Family Restaurants/Talk"] --["Users/BradMandell"]

Diners/Talk

BradMandell — 2008-10-01T15:55:29Z

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 26:	Line 26:
- ''2006-06-27 20:50:26'' [[nbsp]] I can tell you I know the main cook for Jay's--they DO make all their own dishes fresh if at all possible and there is a pastry case in plain view --["PeterB"]	+ ''2006-06-27 20:50:26'' [[nbsp]] I can tell you I know the main cook for Jay's--they DO make all their own dishes fresh if at all possible and there is a pastry case in plain view --["PeteB"]

Diners/Talk

BradMandell — 2008-10-01T15:51:44Z

Redact PeteB

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 26:	Line 26:
- ''2006-06-27 20:50:26'' [[nbsp]] I can tell you I know the main cook for Jay's--they DO make all their own dishes fresh if at all possible and there is a pastry case in plain view --["PeterBoulay"]	+ ''2006-06-27 20:50:26'' [[nbsp]] I can tell you I know the main cook for Jay's--they DO make all their own dishes fresh if at all possible and there is a pastry case in plain view --["PeterB"]

Diners/Talk

mantrasix — 2008-09-26T22:43:54Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 40:	Line 40:
	+ ------ + ''2008-09-26 18:43:54'' [[nbsp]] Trying to categorize restaurants is a biased affair. The beauty of the wiki is that it tends toward some equilibrium. A diner is that which seems like a diner to the majority. The common elements would probably be... low to moderate cost, long hours, expansive menu with standard fare like pancakes and hamburgers, and a casual atmosphere. In "Blue Highways" by William Least Heat Moon, he posits the rating of a diner can be inferred from the number of calendars on the wall. --["Users/MantraSix"]

Diners/Talk

FranceScullyOsterman — 2008-05-18T18:44:07Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 38:	Line 38:
	+ ------ + ''2008-05-18 14:44:07'' [[nbsp]] Are the hours that important? ...I think it's more about menu, atmosphere and attitude (e.g. you know you're in a diner when the waitress who greets you says, "Sit anywhere you like, hon!"). Hogan's -- with stylish hats on the wall --doesn't have a diner feel at all. "Stylish" and diner do not go together... Funny that none of you mentioned the Highland Diner. ....Now that's an actual diner, .....right? (although their style is a bit "tongue-in-cheek" diner-campy, it's still all about being a diner.) And the Southwedge? pretty cheap, extensive menu and that "no fuss" sit-where-you-want-to feel. --["Users/FranceScullyOsterman"]

Diners/Talk

FrankGrimes — 2008-03-26T00:11:57Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 35:	Line 35:
	+ ------ + ''2008-03-25 19:11:57'' [[nbsp]] Jack, plenty of places fit your criteria minus the 24 hour rule. But being open 24 hours is not a must like you claim (lots of diners on long island and jersey are not 24 hours). + Atlantic family restaurant on ridge road in Webster, Golden Fox on Culver, Eastridge family restaurant, Jays, Mykonos, Mel's, Nutcracker to name a couple. I could go on. These places fit your criteria, having a wide range of food and being greek run. --["FrankGrimes"]

Diners/Talk

JoannaLicata — 2007-10-11T23:57:59Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 33:	Line 33:
	+ ------ + ''2007-10-11 19:57:59'' [[nbsp]] Since when is Jine's a diner? I think they're a bit pricey. To me, diner == cheap. --["JoannaLicata"]

Diners/Talk

ChristopherWahl — 2007-03-19T03:21:21Z

deleting something i meant to search for but hit comment accidentally

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 33:	Line 33:
- ------ - ''2007-03-18 22:19:44'' [[nbsp]] Homestead --["ChristopherWahl"]

Diners/Talk

ChristopherWahl — 2007-03-19T03:19:44Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 33:	Line 33:
	+ ------ + ''2007-03-18 22:19:44'' [[nbsp]] Homestead --["ChristopherWahl"]

Diners/Talk

gordonanderson — 2007-03-12T16:29:03Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 31:	Line 31:
	+ ------ + ''2007-03-12 11:29:03'' [[nbsp]] Mykonos and Jay's are not "Diners" as defined by the term being used in this forum. One could argue that the old Jay's was a dinder to which I would agree. The are many "restaurants" in Rochester that are clearly diners. Gitsis, Mark's Texas Hots, the Homestead in webster, and quite a few of the greek owned places around town fit the bill exactly. --["GordonAnderson"]

Diners/Talk

StevenDibelius — 2007-02-11T19:53:20Z

Removed my own comment (page moved; comment no longer applicable).

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 30:	Line 30:
- ''2007-02-09 19:20:03'' [[nbsp]] This page is completely useless. The entire definition of "true diners" is based on opinion. And saying "The owners, ideally, will be Greek" is a bit over the top. I imagine this page was created at least partly in jest (for example, that Greek comment), and I don't think it serves any valuable purpose. I suggest this page be deleted. --["StevenDibelius"] - ------

Diners/Talk

JohnLam — 2007-02-11T14:35:00Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 31:	Line 31:
	+ ------ + ''2007-02-11 09:35:00'' [[nbsp]] Adam, thanks for not deleting Jack's comments. I believe i know what he and Rick meant in tagging “true diners” to distinguish them from cafés and similar formats. Those who grew up in New Jersey and the mid-Atlantic states might also recognize them, which indeed many Greek immigrants founded. Barry Levinson also immortalized them in his 1982 classic [http://www.amazon.com/Diner/dp/B000I0Q2KO Diner]. George Lucas similarly set his 1973 [http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0069704 American Graffiti] among diners but with a wholly California vision. Rochester seems not to have had a similar diner culture, and except for a few, our diners differ. --["JohnLam"]

Diners/Talk

adamdewitz — 2007-02-10T01:24:23Z

mv content from true diners. Attributed original content to JackCalcines

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 2:	Line 2:
-
Line 8:	Line 7:
	+ + ---- + + ''2005-06-01 10:30:21'' [[nbsp]] A person from a Diner-rich region will realize that there are very few true diners in Rochester. A diner should, at any hour of the day (They must be 24-hour establishments), be able to serve a variety of dishes. Anything from breakfast to steak and lobster, Italian food, Greek, french fries (optionally with gravy), etc. There should be a pastry case directly in front of the entrance. The owners, ideally, will be Greek. The absolute mark of a true diner are the words "All Baking Done On Premises" on the sign. Only a true diner would have this, however it is not required. The only true diners in Rochester are: + + * ["Mykonos"] + * ["Jay's Diner"] + + -- ["JackCalcines"] + + ------ + ''2005-06-01 15:18:09'' [[nbsp]] I think this page should be consolidated into the main Diners page as text following the listings or as a footnote. Also: I disagree with this definition of 'true diners.' --["RobertPolyn"] + ------ + ''2005-12-11 15:55:44'' [[nbsp]] I agree with Robert. --["TobinFricke"] + ------ + ''2005-12-12 11:07:41'' [[nbsp]] Why doesn't Gitsis qualify as a true diner? --["GeorgeHaberberger"] + ------ + ''2006-06-27 20:30:23'' [[nbsp]] Hilarious. Thanks for coining "diner-rich" - so fabulous, I shall start peppering my speech w/ it. If only to razz Greek friends. --["ChristineLeo"] + ------ + ''2006-06-27 20:50:26'' [[nbsp]] I can tell you I know the main cook for Jay's--they DO make all their own dishes fresh if at all possible and there is a pastry case in plain view --["PeterBoulay"] + ------ + ''2006-12-14 11:26:02'' [[nbsp]] Thank the gods for our "diner-rich" region. At least we have an alternative to all the chain places. The chain infestation across the country and world slowly destroys the unique regional characteristics that used to help define our cultural differences. Eat at a McDonalds in Paris? Drink coffee at Starbucks in Rome? Are you kidding? --["ZedOmega"] + ------ + ''2007-02-09 19:20:03'' [[nbsp]] This page is completely useless. The entire definition of "true diners" is based on opinion. And saying "The owners, ideally, will be Greek" is a bit over the top. I imagine this page was created at least partly in jest (for example, that Greek comment), and I don't think it serves any valuable purpose. I suggest this page be deleted. --["StevenDibelius"]

Diners/Talk

StevenDibelius — 2006-11-16T21:43:13Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 6:	Line 6:
	+ ------ + ''2006-11-16 16:43:13'' [[nbsp]] It seems like a lot of these are here simply because they do not fit into any other category. For example, I would say that Campi's, Hogans Hideaway, Lorraine's Food Factory, and Nick Tahou's are not diners. I think this section needs some cleanup, with some new restaurant category pages created. For example, maybe Hogans would fit under "American"? --["StevenDibelius"]

Diners/Talk

RickUrwin — 2006-08-04T00:20:15Z

Added some links to my comment.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 5:	Line 5:
- ''2006-08-03 17:18:38'' [[nbsp]] I know there is a disclaimer at the bottom of the Diner’s section but it seems like some of the entries are blatantly just café’s. Anything added to the Diner’s page should be arguably a diner and then reserve the “True Diner’s” page for the textbook definitions. There is a Café, use that for your café’s! :) --["RickUrwin"]	+ ''2006-08-03 17:18:38'' [[nbsp]] I know there is a disclaimer at the bottom of the Diner’s section but it seems like some of the entries are ["3S Restaurant & Cafe" blatantly] just café’s. Anything added to the Diner’s page should be arguably a diner and then reserve the “True Diner’s” page for the textbook definitions. There is a ["Cafes" Café] page, use that for your café’s! :) --["RickUrwin"]

Diners/Talk

RickUrwin — 2006-08-04T00:18:38Z

Comment added.

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 4:	Line 4:
	+ ------ + ''2006-08-03 17:18:38'' [[nbsp]] I know there is a disclaimer at the bottom of the Diner’s section but it seems like some of the entries are blatantly just café’s. Anything added to the Diner’s page should be arguably a diner and then reserve the “True Diner’s” page for the textbook definitions. There is a Café, use that for your café’s! :) --["RickUrwin"]

Diners/Talk

RickUrwin — 2006-08-03T23:30:16Z

Differences for Diners/Talk

Deletions are marked with - .	Additions are marked with +.
Line 1:	Line 1:
	+ This page is for discussing the contents of ["Diners"]. + + [[Comments]]