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InterWiki Linking

BradMandell — 2008-09-20T03:26:30Z

ADOPT InterWiki and Interwiki Map

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	+ + See also related pages: ["InterWiki"] and ["Interwiki Map"]

InterWiki Linking

ReyTucker — 2005-05-25T01:26:16Z

copyedited a bit; someone's got a nasty case of the drooping bytes

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- '''Note:''' This page has been shamelessly copied from the good people at [wiki:DavisWiki:InterWiki_Links DavisWiki], and was mutated to somethign Rochester-eque by ["FarMcKon"].	+ '''Note:''' This page has been shamelessly copied from the good people at [wiki:DavisWiki:InterWiki_Links DavisWiki], and was mutated to something Rochester-eque by ["FarMcKon"].
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- As you may or may not know, RocWiki wiki is not the only wiki on the Internet. The orginial wiki was created by [wiki:Wiki:WardCunningham Ward Cunningham], at c2.com and is called the [wiki:Wiki:WikiWikiWeb WikiWikiWeb] also see ["WikiWikiWeb" DavisWiki Entry]. It is esentially a website about programing and patterns (yes, patterns), however, it has a great deal of discussion about [wiki:C2:WikiEthics Wiki Ethics].	+ As you may or may not know, RocWiki is not the only wiki on the Internet. The orginial wiki was created by [wiki:Wiki:WardCunningham Ward Cunningham], at c2.com and is called the [wiki:Wiki:WikiWikiWeb WikiWikiWeb]. It is essentially a website about programming and patterns (yes, patterns), however, it has a great deal of discussion about [wiki:C2:WikiEthics Wiki Ethics].
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- A much larger site, [wiki:Wikipedia:The Wikipedia], is an online user edited wiki-encyclopedia of pretty much everything. Rather than creating a standard of links, or having to update our Wiki each time another Wiki changes, someone has been smart enough to develop '''interwiki links'''. This makes it easy to link our Wiki to other Wiki's, with minimum effort.	+ A much larger site, [wiki:Wikipedia:Wikipedia The Wikipedia], is an online user edited wiki-encyclopedia of pretty much everything. Rather than creating a standard of links, or having to update our Wiki each time another Wiki changes, someone has been smart enough to develop '''interwiki links'''. This makes it easy to link our Wiki to other Wikis, with minimum effort.
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- Interwiki links look like this [wiki:Wikipedia:Rochester,_New_York Rochester,NY on Wikipedia] when you are viewing a page, and the look like this {{{[wiki:Wikipedia:Rochester,_New_York Rochester,NY on Wikipedia]}}} - - When you are editing a page. Pretty clear, isn't it?	+ Interwiki links look like this [wiki:Wikipedia:Rochester,_New_York Rochester,NY on Wikipedia] when you are viewing a page, and the look like this {{{[wiki:Wikipedia:Rochester,_New_York Rochester,NY on Wikipedia]}}} when you are editing a page. Pretty clear, isn't it?
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- * the {{{wiki:}}} indicates that you are creating a interwiki link regardless of what wiki you're linking to.	+ * the {{{wiki:}}} indicates that you are creating a interwiki link, regardless of what wiki you're linking to.
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- * A word on page names: c2.com always uses CamelCasingToIndicateSpacesBetweenWords. Wikipedia_is_a_big_fan_of_the_underscore. So {{{[wiki:Wiki:APageInTheWiki]}}} {{{[wiki:Wikipedia:A_Page_In_The_Wiki]}}}. - * If you're really picky and anal like ["arlen" me] then you'll want to link to non-redirected pages. For example [wiki:Wikipedia:Vacaville Wikipedia:Vacaville] redirects to [wiki:Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California] but doesn't change the URL, you have to take the page name and add the underscores yourself. - * add a space, then type the description that you would like to appear with the link. if you don't add a description, you link will look like this [wiki:Wikipedia:Poop] which isn't exactly pretty, but [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop Wikipedia:Poop] is ok if you're feeling lazy I guess...	+ * A word on page names: c2.com always uses CamelCasingToIndicateSpacesBetweenWords. Wikipedia_is_a_big_fan_of_the_underscore. So {{{[wiki:Wiki:APageInTheWiki]}}} {{{[wiki:Wikipedia:A_Page_In_The_Wiki]}}}. Just using spaces will result in your crops failing and a wheel bearing seizing up on the 490. + * If you're really picky and anal like [wiki:DavisWiki:ArlenAbraham me], then you'll want to link to non-redirected pages. For example [wiki:Wikipedia:Vacaville Wikipedia:Vacaville] redirects to [wiki:Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California] but doesn't change the URL, you have to take the page name and add the underscores yourself. + * add a space, then type the description that you would like to appear with the link. if you don't add a description, you link will look like this, [wiki:Wikipedia:Poop], which isn't exactly pretty, but [wiki:Wikipedia:Poop Wikipedia:Poop] is ok if you're feeling lazy I guess...
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- Well, for one, you get this cool looking interwiki link icon that lets people know they're going to a wiki and not some random page. Passing your mouse over the link tells you which wiki it links to. Furthermore, it's good for the connectivity of the wiki as a whole, the theory being that indiviual wikis can all link off eachother. Also, they let me, a member of RocWiki the ability to link to [wiki:DavisWiki:ArlenAbraham] ( some guy who accumulate a shitload of edits for changing like 80% of the outgoing links on the wiki in Davis), without opening another browser tab or anything.	+ Well, for one, you get this cool looking interwiki link icon that lets people know they're going to a wiki and not some random page. Passing your mouse over the link tells you which wiki it links to. Furthermore, it's good for the connectivity of the wiki as a whole, the theory being that individual wikis can all link off each other. Also, they let me, a member of RocWiki, the ability to link to [wiki:DavisWiki:ArlenAbraham] (some guy who accumulate a shitload of edits for changing like 80% of the outgoing links on the wiki in Davis), without opening another browser tab or anything.
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- The Wikipedia is an excellent resource for things that we don't necessairily talk about here. It also provides alternate explanations of thinks like [wiki:Wikipedia:Instant-Runoff_Voting Instant-Runoff Voting] for example. It also allows our community discussions to easily 'cross over' to other communities that have wikis. -	+ The Wikipedia is an excellent resource for things that we don't necessarily talk about here. It also provides alternate explanations of thinks like [wiki:Wikipedia:Hillary_Rodham_Clinton Hillary Clinton] for example. It also allows our community discussions to easily 'cross over' to other communities that have wikis.
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- The [wiki:DavisWiki:Videogaming Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:Wikpedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:Wikipedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].	+ The [wiki:DavisWiki:Videogaming Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort by those suckers over in California. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:Wikipedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:Wikipedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].
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- *Topics aren't non RocWiki, but '''content''' might inappropriately be. When the topic relates to Rochester, put it here. When it doesn't, put it on a bigger wiki, and link, link, link like ["ChrisAcheson"] in Smash Bros.	+ *Topics aren't non-RocWiki, but '''content''' might inappropriately be. When the topic relates to Rochester, put it here. When it doesn't, put it on a bigger wiki, and link, link, link like ["ChrisAcheson"] in Smash Bros.

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FarMcKon — 2005-05-25T00:12:02Z

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- * ''Topics aren't non RocWiki, but '''content''' might inappropriately be. When the topic relates to Rochester, put it here. When it doesn't, put it on a bigger wiki, and link, link, link like ["ChrisAcheson"] in Smash Bros.	+ *Topics aren't non RocWiki, but '''content''' might inappropriately be. When the topic relates to Rochester, put it here. When it doesn't, put it on a bigger wiki, and link, link, link like ["ChrisAcheson"] in Smash Bros.
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- Note: The new (better) syntax is not implemented yet, as of 2005.05.23. OR it's not working with davis wiki properly.	+ Note: The new (better) syntax is not implemented yet, as of 2005.05.23. OR it's not working with davis wiki properly. Also the link to Arlen Abraham above appears in the 'wanted pages' list. I hope qoutes would fix that too -["FarMcKon"]

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FarMcKon — 2005-05-25T00:04:33Z

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- '''Note:''' This page has been shamelessly copied from the good people at [wiki:DavisWiki:InterWiki_Links DavisWiki]	+ '''Note:''' This page has been shamelessly copied from the good people at [wiki:DavisWiki:InterWiki_Links DavisWiki], and was mutated to somethign Rochester-eque by ["FarMcKon"].
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- A much larger site, [wiki:WikiPedia: The Wikipedia], is an online user edited wiki-encyclopedia of pretty much everything. Rather than creating a standard of links, or having to update our Wiki each time another Wiki changes, someone has been smart enough to develop '''interwiki links'''. This makes it easy to link our Wiki to other Wiki's, with minimum effort.	+ A much larger site, [wiki:Wikipedia:The Wikipedia], is an online user edited wiki-encyclopedia of pretty much everything. Rather than creating a standard of links, or having to update our Wiki each time another Wiki changes, someone has been smart enough to develop '''interwiki links'''. This makes it easy to link our Wiki to other Wiki's, with minimum effort.
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- * A word on page names: c2.com always uses CamelCasingToIndicateSpacesBetweenWords. Wikipedia_is_a_big_fan_of_the_underscore. So {{{[wiki:Wiki:APageInTheWiki]}}} {{{[wiki:WikiPedia:A_Page_In_The_Wiki]}}}. - * If you're really picky and anal like ["arlen" me] then you'll want to link to non-redirected pages. For example [wiki:WikiPedia:Vacaville Wikipedia:Vacaville] redirects to [wiki:WikiPedia:Vacaville,_California Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California] but doesn't change the URL, you have to take the page name and add the underscores yourself. - * add a space, then type the description that you would like to appear with the link. if you don't add a description, you link will look like this [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop] which isn't exactly pretty, but [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop Wikipedia:Poop] is ok if you're feeling lazy I guess...	+ * A word on page names: c2.com always uses CamelCasingToIndicateSpacesBetweenWords. Wikipedia_is_a_big_fan_of_the_underscore. So {{{[wiki:Wiki:APageInTheWiki]}}} {{{[wiki:Wikipedia:A_Page_In_The_Wiki]}}}. + * If you're really picky and anal like ["arlen" me] then you'll want to link to non-redirected pages. For example [wiki:Wikipedia:Vacaville Wikipedia:Vacaville] redirects to [wiki:Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California] but doesn't change the URL, you have to take the page name and add the underscores yourself. + * add a space, then type the description that you would like to appear with the link. if you don't add a description, you link will look like this [wiki:Wikipedia:Poop] which isn't exactly pretty, but [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop Wikipedia:Poop] is ok if you're feeling lazy I guess...
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- The Wikipedia is an excellent resource for things that we don't necessairily talk about here. It also provides alternate explanations of thinks like [wiki:WikiPedia:Instant-Runoff_Voting Instant-Runoff Voting] for example. It also allows our community discussions to easily 'cross over' to other communities that have wikis.	+ The Wikipedia is an excellent resource for things that we don't necessairily talk about here. It also provides alternate explanations of thinks like [wiki:Wikipedia:Instant-Runoff_Voting Instant-Runoff Voting] for example. It also allows our community discussions to easily 'cross over' to other communities that have wikis.
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- The [wiki:DavisWiki:Videogaming Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:Wikpedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].	+ The [wiki:DavisWiki:Videogaming Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:Wikpedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:Wikipedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].
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- * ''Topics aren't non-Davis. However '''content''' might inappropriately be. I may be in the small minority here (or alone, even), but I think there is virtually no ''entry topic'' that should be off limits from DavisWiki. I think of the DavisWiki as an encyclopedia of things in the world from a ''Davis perspective.'' And even if pages start off genericly, they usually end up very davis-specific. I bet if someone did entries on the Sun, Moon, Stars, etc., they could all have a uniquely davis-specific flavor. I think there may be some reason to include wikipedia links in the footer-- hell, maybe this can be automatically generated if a wikipedia page one exists?? But nothing should inspire someone to say, "How does this topic relate to Davis?" and respond by deleting the page. Instead that same person should try and make the page relevant to Davis. Or at least provide the headings. But that's just my "unique" perspective.'' -["JaimeRaba"]	+ * ''Topics aren't non RocWiki, but '''content''' might inappropriately be. When the topic relates to Rochester, put it here. When it doesn't, put it on a bigger wiki, and link, link, link like ["ChrisAcheson"] in Smash Bros.
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- Because the Wikipedia is edited and viewed by thousands of people each day, some people claim it is more authoritative than something like DavisWiki. Niche Wikis like DavisWiki tend to be updated with specifics (find the suppliers of papasan chairs in Davis on Wikipedia or the hours of Thai Bistro) and have local information updated significantly more quickly. The accuracy of Wikipedia, like any Wiki, can be considered dubious - tests involving insertion of incorrect data shows that it does not get fixed promptly, and is thus subject to subtle trolling. - - = Controversy = - ["JabberWokky"] maintains that having a linkfest to Wikipedia is not necessarily a positive thing - Wikipedia's goals and methods are very different than DavisWiki. As a result, linking to Wiki for things like ["DDR"] would prevent the creation of the current page... which lists local notable players, local groups that hold local tournaments, and a chunk of Davis specific information - including locations of game machines. DDR itself has little to do with Davis and thus would be a "good" thing to link to Wikipedia... and in doing so, you decrease the local content hosted here and maintained by Davis focused editors. - - A very good example of "what should have been linked to Wikipedia" are the Flora pages - dozens of pages listing local plantlife. But by not linking to the Wikipedia entries, we have created pages that contain more information (or more relevant information) than the Wikipedia entries. In many cases, the local DavisWiki entries list things like what varieties are common locally and where to buy them locally. There was "no reason" to create the entries by the "Interwiki link philosophy"... Wikipedia has "perfectly good" information... but by not linking, we have increased the value of the local Wiki greatly. - - ''Although, there is some value to the wiki:Wiki:OnceAndOnlyOnce philosophy.'' - ["The Labster"] - * There is also quite a bit of reality to the three precepts of "Competition, Focus and Satisfaction". Following your logic, all entries on DavisWiki should be copied to Wikipedia and DavisWiki shut down. Seeing pages that could be made here blocked by the "easy way out" of linking to Wikipedia (even when the Wikipedia entry ''lacks relevance'' like wiki:WikiPedia:Richard_Avedon versus ["Richard Avedon"]) makes me seriously question the future of this site. You've opened a WalMart in the Wiki, where everything is cheaper, even if it's shoddy and removes the ability of locals to participate in their own community. -- ["JabberWokky"] - No, no, ["Ben & Jerry's"] is Wal*Mart. Silly. I think local information is best described here, but we shouldn't try to grow to become encyclopedic on things that don't relate to ["Davis"] very much. If articles are covered well on the wikipedia, I think we just need a paragraph of introduction, how it relates to Davis, and a link to the wikipedia for more information. I don't think we need to refer there for things that are profoundly Davis like, say, ["Judy Sakaki"]. But I've never tried to define discordianism on this website. (Besides the rest of them wouldn't agree with me -- we Discordians must stick apart!) I never claimed it was my logic, I just claimed the philosophy had some value. --["BrentLaabs"]	+ Because the Wikipedia is edited and viewed by thousands of people each day, some people claim it is more authoritative than something like ["RocWiki"] or ["DavisWiki"]. Niche Wikis like us tend to be updated with specifics and have local information updated significantly more quickly. The accuracy of Wikipedia, like any Wiki, can be considered dubious - tests involving insertion of incorrect data shows that it does not get fixed promptly, and is thus subject to subtle trolling.

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FarMcKon — 2005-05-24T23:59:05Z

fixing links, changing commets

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- As you may or may not know, Davis wiki is not the only wiki on the Internet. The orginial wiki was created by [wiki:Wiki:WardCunningham Ward Cunningham], at c2.com and is called the [wiki:Wiki:WikiWikiWeb WikiWikiWeb] also see ["WikiWikiWeb" DavisWiki Entry]. It is esentially a website about programing and patterns (yes, patterns), however, it has a great deal of discussion about [wiki:C2:WikiEthics Wiki Ethics].	+ As you may or may not know, RocWiki wiki is not the only wiki on the Internet. The orginial wiki was created by [wiki:Wiki:WardCunningham Ward Cunningham], at c2.com and is called the [wiki:Wiki:WikiWikiWeb WikiWikiWeb] also see ["WikiWikiWeb" DavisWiki Entry]. It is esentially a website about programing and patterns (yes, patterns), however, it has a great deal of discussion about [wiki:C2:WikiEthics Wiki Ethics].
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- A much larger site, [wiki:WikiPedia: The Wikipedia], is an online wiki-encyclopedia of everything. Rather than creating standard links to c2 and wikipedia pages, you can create interwiki links like such	+ A much larger site, [wiki:WikiPedia: The Wikipedia], is an online user edited wiki-encyclopedia of pretty much everything. Rather than creating a standard of links, or having to update our Wiki each time another Wiki changes, someone has been smart enough to develop '''interwiki links'''. This makes it easy to link our Wiki to other Wiki's, with minimum effort.
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- = Guh? =	+ Interwiki links look like this [wiki:Wikipedia:Rochester,_New_York Rochester,NY on Wikipedia] when you are viewing a page, and the look like this {{{[wiki:Wikipedia:Rochester,_New_York Rochester,NY on Wikipedia]}}}
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- entering: - - {{{[wiki:WikiPedia:Poop A page about poop]}}} - - will give you this - - [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop A page about poop] - - If you click on the link, you will be taken to the Wikipedia's page on Poop.	+ When you are editing a page. Pretty clear, isn't it?
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- Well, for one, you get this cool looking interwiki link icon that lets people know they're going to a wiki and not some random page. Passing your mouse over the link tells you which wiki it links to. Furthermore, it's good for the connectivity of the wiki as a whole, the theory being that indiviual wikis can all link off eachother. Also, they gave ["ArlenAbraham"] the oppurtunity to accumulate a shitload of edits for changing like 80% of the outgoing links on the wiki.	+ Well, for one, you get this cool looking interwiki link icon that lets people know they're going to a wiki and not some random page. Passing your mouse over the link tells you which wiki it links to. Furthermore, it's good for the connectivity of the wiki as a whole, the theory being that indiviual wikis can all link off eachother. Also, they let me, a member of RocWiki the ability to link to [wiki:DavisWiki:ArlenAbraham] ( some guy who accumulate a shitload of edits for changing like 80% of the outgoing links on the wiki in Davis), without opening another browser tab or anything.
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- The Wikipedia is an excellent resource for things that we don't necessairily talk about here. It also provides alternate explanations, [wiki:WikiPedia:Instant-Runoff_Voting Instant-Runoff Voting] for example, is something that is discussed indepth here at DavisWiki, but DavisWiki cites the wikipedia page as further reading.	+ The Wikipedia is an excellent resource for things that we don't necessairily talk about here. It also provides alternate explanations of thinks like [wiki:WikiPedia:Instant-Runoff_Voting Instant-Runoff Voting] for example. It also allows our community discussions to easily 'cross over' to other communities that have wikis.
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- == Non-Davis topics == - The [wiki:DavisWiki:Videogaming Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].	+ + == Non-RocWiki topics == + The [wiki:DavisWiki:Videogaming Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:Wikpedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].

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FarMcKon — 2005-05-24T23:42:16Z

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FarMcKon — 2005-05-24T23:41:11Z

testing inter-wiki links by fixing links on this page

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- The [wiki:DavisWiki:"Videogaming" Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].	+ The [wiki:DavisWiki:Videogaming Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].

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FarMcKon — 2005-05-24T23:39:09Z

testing inter-wiki links by fixing links on this page

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- The ["Videogaming"] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].	+ The [wiki:DavisWiki:"Videogaming" Davis Videogaming] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry].

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-11T15:54:50Z

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	+ + I agree that it is a bit awkward as stands. I welcome the change you've suggested -- ["RobertPolyn"]

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PhilipNeustrom — 2005-05-11T13:09:13Z

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	+ ------ + One thing I don't like about the links is that it doesn't match our internal linking style. I think the interwiki links should look like:
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	+ {{{[wiki:nameofwiki:"Page title" alt text]}}} + + What do you guys think? (also, the name shouldn't have to be in camelcase) --["PhilipNeustrom"]

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-11T04:02:59Z

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	+ '''Note:''' This page has been shamelessly copied from the good people at [wiki:DavisWiki:InterWiki_Links DavisWiki] + + [[TableOfContents]] + + + = Interwiki what? = + + As you may or may not know, Davis wiki is not the only wiki on the Internet. The orginial wiki was created by [wiki:Wiki:WardCunningham Ward Cunningham], at c2.com and is called the [wiki:Wiki:WikiWikiWeb WikiWikiWeb] also see ["WikiWikiWeb" DavisWiki Entry]. It is esentially a website about programing and patterns (yes, patterns), however, it has a great deal of discussion about [wiki:C2:WikiEthics Wiki Ethics]. + + A much larger site, [wiki:WikiPedia: The Wikipedia], is an online wiki-encyclopedia of everything. Rather than creating standard links to c2 and wikipedia pages, you can create interwiki links like such + + = Guh? = + + entering: + + {{{[wiki:WikiPedia:Poop A page about poop]}}} + + will give you this + + [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop A page about poop] + + If you click on the link, you will be taken to the Wikipedia's page on Poop. + + = Here's how it works = + ''(everything is case-senstive)'' + + * the {{{[]}}} indicates that what you are typing is a link. + * the {{{wiki:}}} indicates that you are creating a interwiki link regardless of what wiki you're linking to. + * this can be followed by any of the names in the below "List of Interwiki places" + * then of course you follow with the page name + * A word on page names: c2.com always uses CamelCasingToIndicateSpacesBetweenWords. Wikipedia_is_a_big_fan_of_the_underscore. So {{{[wiki:Wiki:APageInTheWiki]}}} {{{[wiki:WikiPedia:A_Page_In_The_Wiki]}}}. + * If you're really picky and anal like ["arlen" me] then you'll want to link to non-redirected pages. For example [wiki:WikiPedia:Vacaville Wikipedia:Vacaville] redirects to [wiki:WikiPedia:Vacaville,_California Wikipedia:Vacaville,_California] but doesn't change the URL, you have to take the page name and add the underscores yourself. + * add a space, then type the description that you would like to appear with the link. if you don't add a description, you link will look like this [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop] which isn't exactly pretty, but [wiki:WikiPedia:Poop Wikipedia:Poop] is ok if you're feeling lazy I guess... + + = List of Interwiki places = + [[InterWiki]] + + If you want to add a wiki to this list, please contact a ["Wiki Developers" site admin]. Soon you'll be able to edit the list yourself, but for now it's just crummy like that. + + = Why Bother? = + + Well, for one, you get this cool looking interwiki link icon that lets people know they're going to a wiki and not some random page. Passing your mouse over the link tells you which wiki it links to. Furthermore, it's good for the connectivity of the wiki as a whole, the theory being that indiviual wikis can all link off eachother. Also, they gave ["ArlenAbraham"] the oppurtunity to accumulate a shitload of edits for changing like 80% of the outgoing links on the wiki. + + = So when do I use this? = + + == Further Reading == + The Wikipedia is an excellent resource for things that we don't necessairily talk about here. It also provides alternate explanations, [wiki:WikiPedia:Instant-Runoff_Voting Instant-Runoff Voting] for example, is something that is discussed indepth here at DavisWiki, but DavisWiki cites the wikipedia page as further reading. + + == Non-Davis topics == + The ["Videogaming"] page is an excellent example of wasted effort. Why go through the trouble of writing a history of the videogaming industry when a [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry much better version] already exists on the Wikipedia? There's no need to reinvent the wheel, merely say, for a complete history of the videogame industry, see [wiki:WikiPedia:Videogame_industry Wikipedia entry]. + + * ''Topics aren't non-Davis. However '''content''' might inappropriately be. I may be in the small minority here (or alone, even), but I think there is virtually no ''entry topic'' that should be off limits from DavisWiki. I think of the DavisWiki as an encyclopedia of things in the world from a ''Davis perspective.'' And even if pages start off genericly, they usually end up very davis-specific. I bet if someone did entries on the Sun, Moon, Stars, etc., they could all have a uniquely davis-specific flavor. I think there may be some reason to include wikipedia links in the footer-- hell, maybe this can be automatically generated if a wikipedia page one exists?? But nothing should inspire someone to say, "How does this topic relate to Davis?" and respond by deleting the page. Instead that same person should try and make the page relevant to Davis. Or at least provide the headings. But that's just my "unique" perspective.'' -["JaimeRaba"] + + == Authority == + Because the Wikipedia is edited and viewed by thousands of people each day, some people claim it is more authoritative than something like DavisWiki. Niche Wikis like DavisWiki tend to be updated with specifics (find the suppliers of papasan chairs in Davis on Wikipedia or the hours of Thai Bistro) and have local information updated significantly more quickly. The accuracy of Wikipedia, like any Wiki, can be considered dubious - tests involving insertion of incorrect data shows that it does not get fixed promptly, and is thus subject to subtle trolling. + + = Controversy = + ["JabberWokky"] maintains that having a linkfest to Wikipedia is not necessarily a positive thing - Wikipedia's goals and methods are very different than DavisWiki. As a result, linking to Wiki for things like ["DDR"] would prevent the creation of the current page... which lists local notable players, local groups that hold local tournaments, and a chunk of Davis specific information - including locations of game machines. DDR itself has little to do with Davis and thus would be a "good" thing to link to Wikipedia... and in doing so, you decrease the local content hosted here and maintained by Davis focused editors. + + A very good example of "what should have been linked to Wikipedia" are the Flora pages - dozens of pages listing local plantlife. But by not linking to the Wikipedia entries, we have created pages that contain more information (or more relevant information) than the Wikipedia entries. In many cases, the local DavisWiki entries list things like what varieties are common locally and where to buy them locally. There was "no reason" to create the entries by the "Interwiki link philosophy"... Wikipedia has "perfectly good" information... but by not linking, we have increased the value of the local Wiki greatly. + + ''Although, there is some value to the wiki:Wiki:OnceAndOnlyOnce philosophy.'' - ["The Labster"] + * There is also quite a bit of reality to the three precepts of "Competition, Focus and Satisfaction". Following your logic, all entries on DavisWiki should be copied to Wikipedia and DavisWiki shut down. Seeing pages that could be made here blocked by the "easy way out" of linking to Wikipedia (even when the Wikipedia entry ''lacks relevance'' like wiki:WikiPedia:Richard_Avedon versus ["Richard Avedon"]) makes me seriously question the future of this site. You've opened a WalMart in the Wiki, where everything is cheaper, even if it's shoddy and removes the ability of locals to participate in their own community. -- ["JabberWokky"] + No, no, ["Ben & Jerry's"] is Wal*Mart. Silly. I think local information is best described here, but we shouldn't try to grow to become encyclopedic on things that don't relate to ["Davis"] very much. If articles are covered well on the wikipedia, I think we just need a paragraph of introduction, how it relates to Davis, and a link to the wikipedia for more information. I don't think we need to refer there for things that are profoundly Davis like, say, ["Judy Sakaki"]. But I've never tried to define discordianism on this website. (Besides the rest of them wouldn't agree with me -- we Discordians must stick apart!) I never claimed it was my logic, I just claimed the philosophy had some value. --["BrentLaabs"] + +