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N2NXZ — 2012-09-03T20:17:00Z

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	+ ------ + ''2012-09-03 16:17:00'' [[nbsp]] The story is wrong. + The real castle is located at St.Paul street and Upper falls Blvd and the walls still remain. + Legend has it, she can still be seen applying for welfare right next door ! + Rochestarians love to keep the remains of a thriving city that once was productive. + Most would call these remnants giant tombstones of a once well operated city now run from extorsion,lies and drugs.R.I.P --["Users/N2NXZ"]

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rcgw — 2010-10-25T04:45:22Z

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- Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "White Lady's Castle" wall is just the remnants of The Refractory, a popular eatery for pre-Depression era vacationers who would often come from near and far to spend entire summers on the lake shore. This information was verified with Patricia Wayne, current Irondequoit town historian. It is NOT the remnants of the White Lady's house, and it is NOT a retaining wall that housed canons despite some people's insistence on adhering to these fabricated stories. The Refractory failed during the Great Depression, and over the years the wooden structure that once sat atop the wall succumbed to vandalism and arson. All that remains is the Spanish fort-style wall, which looks much like a castle wall.	+ Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "White Lady's Castle" wall is just the remnants of an old refectory (dining hall), a popular eatery for pre-Depression era vacationers who would often come from near and far to spend entire summers on the lake shore. It was possibly named Three Lakes Pavilion. This information was verified with Patricia Wayne, current Irondequoit town historian. It is NOT the remnants of the White Lady's house, an old insane asylum, or a retaining wall that housed canons despite some people's insistence on adhering to these fabricated stories. The refectory failed during the Great Depression, and over the years the wooden structure that once sat atop the wall succumbed to vandalism and arson. All that remains is the Spanish fort-style wall, which looks much like a castle wall.

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rcgw — 2010-05-03T03:18:44Z

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- The '''Lady In White''' (aka ["White Lady"]) is a well-known haunting in local lore. Many variations regarding the specifics of her story exist. The central theme is the soul of a grieving mother that can be seen at times searching the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach or nearby "Castle Wall" for those responsible for her daughter's disappearance and/or for the daughter's body. One variation on the story includes two spectral hounds that accompany the Lady on her search. Some versions assert the Lady can be glimpsed at nightfall, rising out of one of the small ponds near the edge of Lake Ontario. The daughter's age and the nature of her disappearance varies with the telling as well. In some versions, she is a teenager who runs away with a lover, but he turns on her and kills her. In others, she is raped and murdered by one or more local brigands.	+ The '''Lady In White''' (aka ["White Lady"]) is a well-known haunting in local lore. Many variations regarding the specifics of her story exist. The central theme is the soul of a grieving mother that can be seen at times searching the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach and park for those responsible for her daughter's disappearance and/or for the daughter's body. One variation on the story includes two spectral hounds that accompany the Lady on her search. Some versions assert the Lady can be glimpsed at nightfall, rising out of one of the small ponds near the edge of Lake Ontario. The daughter's age and the nature of her disappearance varies with the telling as well. In some versions, she is a teenager who runs away with a lover, but he turns on her and kills her. In others, she is raped and murdered by one or more local brigands.
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- Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "Castle Wall" is nothing more than the last remnant of the old park conservatory building retaining wall. The wall once had a set of cannons projecting over it, but they were removed after someone thought it might be offensive to the Canadians they were aimed towards. In the 1930's the conservatory building was used by the local Boy Scout council for what was then known as "Camp Three Lakes." It should also be noted that a large Greek Revival style mansion stood nearby, which had fallen into disrepair by the early 1900's. The mansion served as a camp for sick children. The structure was partially burned down by vandals, and any remainder was taken down by the city.	+ Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "White Lady's Castle" wall is just the remnants of The Refractory, a popular eatery for pre-Depression era vacationers who would often come from near and far to spend entire summers on the lake shore. This information was verified with Patricia Wayne, current Irondequoit town historian. It is NOT the remnants of the White Lady's house, and it is NOT a retaining wall that housed canons despite some people's insistence on adhering to these fabricated stories. The Refractory failed during the Great Depression, and over the years the wooden structure that once sat atop the wall succumbed to vandalism and arson. All that remains is the Spanish fort-style wall, which looks much like a castle wall.
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- Many claims regarding this story have been proven false or inconsistent with known facts. Meanwhile, others claim that documentation supporting (at least one version of) this story exists in local records.	+ Unfortunately, despite the efforts of current Irondequoit town historian Patricia Wayne and historians before her, there are no records that match any details of the stories. Though the story can't be verified, there are numerous sightings every year of the infamous Lady in White.
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- * [http://supernaturalparanormal.com/?page_id=438 Rochester Paranormal Durand Page]

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BradMandell — 2010-03-26T16:13:38Z

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- The '''Lady In White''' is a well-known haunting in local lore. Many variations regarding the specifics of her story exist. The central theme is the soul of a grieving mother that can be seen at times searching the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach or nearby "Castle Wall" for those responsible for her daughter's disappearance and/or for the daughter's body. One variation on the story includes two spectral hounds that accompany the Lady on her search. Some versions assert the Lady can be glimpsed at nightfall, rising out of one of the small ponds near the edge of Lake Ontario. The daughter's age and the nature of her disappearance varies with the telling as well. In some versions, she is a teenager who runs away with a lover, but he turns on her and kills her. In others, she is raped and murdered by one or more local brigands.	+ The '''Lady In White''' (aka ["White Lady"]) is a well-known haunting in local lore. Many variations regarding the specifics of her story exist. The central theme is the soul of a grieving mother that can be seen at times searching the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach or nearby "Castle Wall" for those responsible for her daughter's disappearance and/or for the daughter's body. One variation on the story includes two spectral hounds that accompany the Lady on her search. Some versions assert the Lady can be glimpsed at nightfall, rising out of one of the small ponds near the edge of Lake Ontario. The daughter's age and the nature of her disappearance varies with the telling as well. In some versions, she is a teenager who runs away with a lover, but he turns on her and kills her. In others, she is raped and murdered by one or more local brigands.

Lady In White

BradMandell — 2010-03-26T15:07:48Z

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- Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "Castle Wall" is nothing more than the last remnant of the old park conservatory building retaining wall. The wall once had a set of cannons projecting over it, but they were removed after someone thought it might be offensive to the Canadians they were aimed towards. In the 1930's the conservatory building was used by the local Boy Scout council for what was then known as "Camp Three Lakes." It should also be noted that a large Greek Revival style mansion stood nearby, which had fallen into disrepair by the early 1900's. The mansion served as a camp for sick children.	+ Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "Castle Wall" is nothing more than the last remnant of the old park conservatory building retaining wall. The wall once had a set of cannons projecting over it, but they were removed after someone thought it might be offensive to the Canadians they were aimed towards. In the 1930's the conservatory building was used by the local Boy Scout council for what was then known as "Camp Three Lakes." It should also be noted that a large Greek Revival style mansion stood nearby, which had fallen into disrepair by the early 1900's. The mansion served as a camp for sick children. The structure was partially burned down by vandals, and any remainder was taken down by the city.
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- In 2008, the story was voted "Best Local Urban Legend" in ["City Newspaper"]'s 'Best Of' Awards.[[Footnote(http://www.rochestercitynewspaper.com/entertainment/guides/2008/11/BEST-OF-ROCHESTER-2008-Readers-choice/)]] -	+ '''Notes and References''' + * Story voted "Best Local Urban Legend" in ["City Newspaper"]'s '2008 Best Of' Awards.[[Footnote([http://www.rochestercitynewspaper.com/entertainment/guides/2008/11/BEST-OF-ROCHESTER-2008-Readers-choice/ Readers Choice Awards 2008])]]
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- - Also see: ["Hauntings"] and ["Urban Legends"]	+ * ["Rochester Candlelight Ghost Walks"] - conducts Lady in White Ghost Walk + * '''Also see''': ["Hauntings"] and ["Urban Legends"] + [[Footnote]] + [[Comments]] + ------ + ''2010-03-21 19:48:49'' [[nbsp]] Most believe she is searching for her lost daughter, who in some stories is kidnapped and killed and in other variations she runs off with a young lover to escape her overbearing mother. Some variations of the story state that she has two spectral hounds, either German Shepherds or Dobermans, who accompany her. The Lady in White has been seen outside of the park and beach areas, including on the local golf course, in the Irondequoit Cemetery, and as far as Ridge Road. --["Users/rcgw"]

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BradMandell — 2010-03-26T14:54:31Z

Revert to version 12 (update appears to be aimed at the commercial ghost walk ).

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- The '''Lady In White''' is one of Rochester's most famous hauntings. There are many variations of the story, but the ghost herself seems to have a consistent personality. She is known to be an angry ghost, haunting the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach and park areas. Most believe she is searching for her lost daughter, who in some stories is kidnapped and killed and in other variations she runs off with a young lover to escape her overbearing mother. Some variations of the story state that she has two spectral hounds, either German Shepherds or Dobermans, who accompany her. The Lady in White has been seen outside of the park and beach areas, including on the local golf course, in the Irondequoit Cemetery, and as far as Ridge Road.	+ The '''Lady In White''' is a well-known haunting in local lore. Many variations regarding the specifics of her story exist. The central theme is the soul of a grieving mother that can be seen at times searching the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach or nearby "Castle Wall" for those responsible for her daughter's disappearance and/or for the daughter's body. One variation on the story includes two spectral hounds that accompany the Lady on her search. Some versions assert the Lady can be glimpsed at nightfall, rising out of one of the small ponds near the edge of Lake Ontario. The daughter's age and the nature of her disappearance varies with the telling as well. In some versions, she is a teenager who runs away with a lover, but he turns on her and kills her. In others, she is raped and murdered by one or more local brigands.
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- Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "White Lady's Castle" is nothing more than the last remnant of the old Refractory - a place that served food before the Great Depression. It was built in an old Spanish fort style, popular at the time. The wood structure that sat atop the stone wall became dilapidated after the Great Depression forced The Refractory to close. The structure was partially burned down by vandals, and any remainder was taken down by the city.	+ Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "Castle Wall" is nothing more than the last remnant of the old park conservatory building retaining wall. The wall once had a set of cannons projecting over it, but they were removed after someone thought it might be offensive to the Canadians they were aimed towards. In the 1930's the conservatory building was used by the local Boy Scout council for what was then known as "Camp Three Lakes." It should also be noted that a large Greek Revival style mansion stood nearby, which had fallen into disrepair by the early 1900's. The mansion served as a camp for sick children.
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- Despite coming through area records, the local Irondequoit historian has been unable to verify this story. This is not to say the legend is completely false, as record keeping in the area in the 19th century wasn't perfect.	+ Many claims regarding this story have been proven false or inconsistent with known facts. Meanwhile, others claim that documentation supporting (at least one version of) this story exists in local records.
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- The Lady in White has been the subject of numerous books, a movie, and a local ["Lady in White Ghost Walk"].	+ * [http://supernaturalparanormal.com/?page_id=438 Rochester Paranormal Durand Page] + * [http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/ny6.html AmericanFolklore.net Retelling] + * [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Lady_%28ghost%29#White_Lady_of_Durand_Eastman_Park Wikipedia Link] + + Also see: ["Hauntings"] and ["Urban Legends"]

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rcgw — 2010-03-21T23:48:49Z

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- The '''Lady In White''' is a well-known haunting in local lore. Many variations regarding the specifics of her story exist. The central theme is the soul of a grieving mother that can be seen at times searching the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach or nearby "Castle Wall" for those responsible for her daughter's disappearance and/or for the daughter's body. One variation on the story includes two spectral hounds that accompany the Lady on her search. Some versions assert the Lady can be glimpsed at nightfall, rising out of one of the small ponds near the edge of Lake Ontario. The daughter's age and the nature of her disappearance varies with the telling as well. In some versions, she is a teenager who runs away with a lover, but he turns on her and kills her. In others, she is raped and murdered by one or more local brigands.	+ The '''Lady In White''' is one of Rochester's most famous hauntings. There are many variations of the story, but the ghost herself seems to have a consistent personality. She is known to be an angry ghost, haunting the ["Durand-Eastman Park"] beach and park areas. Most believe she is searching for her lost daughter, who in some stories is kidnapped and killed and in other variations she runs off with a young lover to escape her overbearing mother. Some variations of the story state that she has two spectral hounds, either German Shepherds or Dobermans, who accompany her. The Lady in White has been seen outside of the park and beach areas, including on the local golf course, in the Irondequoit Cemetery, and as far as Ridge Road.
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- Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "Castle Wall" is nothing more than the last remnant of the old park conservatory building retaining wall. The wall once had a set of cannons projecting over it, but they were removed after someone thought it might be offensive to the Canadians they were aimed towards. In the 1930's the conservatory building was used by the local Boy Scout council for what was then known as "Camp Three Lakes." It should also be noted that a large Greek Revival style mansion stood nearby, which had fallen into disrepair by the early 1900's. The mansion served as a camp for sick children.	+ Contrary to many stories that have been circulating, the "White Lady's Castle" is nothing more than the last remnant of the old Refractory - a place that served food before the Great Depression. It was built in an old Spanish fort style, popular at the time. The wood structure that sat atop the stone wall became dilapidated after the Great Depression forced The Refractory to close. The structure was partially burned down by vandals, and any remainder was taken down by the city.
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- Many claims regarding this story have been proven false or inconsistent with known facts. Meanwhile, others claim that documentation supporting (at least one version of) this story exists in local records.	+ Despite coming through area records, the local Irondequoit historian has been unable to verify this story. This is not to say the legend is completely false, as record keeping in the area in the 19th century wasn't perfect.
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- * [http://supernaturalparanormal.com/?page_id=438 Rochester Paranormal Durand Page] - * [http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/ny6.html AmericanFolklore.net Retelling] - * [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Lady_%28ghost%29#White_Lady_of_Durand_Eastman_Park Wikipedia Link] - - Also see: ["Hauntings"] and ["Urban Legends"]	+ The Lady in White has been the subject of numerous books, a movie, and a local ["Lady in White Ghost Walk"].

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alexandergartley — 2008-11-12T16:11:50Z

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BradMandell — 2008-11-01T17:35:48Z

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alexandergartley — 2008-10-15T16:51:19Z

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JuliaDickinson — 2008-03-28T03:42:45Z

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RobertCunningham — 2007-05-17T20:14:32Z

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peteb — 2006-12-07T00:27:18Z

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AdamDurand — 2006-07-17T05:52:10Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-12-15T14:16:38Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-08-18T02:37:41Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-06-18T18:16:49Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-29T22:41:49Z

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