Recent Changes for "NPOV/Talk" - Rochester Wikihttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/TalkRecent Changes of the page "NPOV/Talk" on Rochester Wiki.en-us https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=10&version2=11&ts=1187064165NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T04:02:45ZDaveMahonComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 26: </td> <td> Line 26: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-14 00:02:45'' [[nbsp]] You know what? If the wording is a little jarring, that's actually a good thing, because it forces the reader to pay attention. They'll read the rest of the article critically and hopefully figure out how to fix it. --["DaveMahon"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=9&version2=10&ts=1187063566NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T03:52:46ZeastsidestephenComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 24: </td> <td> Line 24: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-13 23:52:46'' [[nbsp]] I think that one's a little confusing. Keeping "neutral" or "NPOV" with a link in the description is probably a good idea --["EastSideStephen"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=8&version2=9&ts=1187063507NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T03:51:47ZDaveMahontweaked my comment <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 21: </td> <td> Line 21: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-08-13 23:27:53'' [[nbsp]] I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one not quite happy with my wording. I fully agree with you Stephen, but it's HARD trying to make this succinct and flexible. Hmmm... </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-08-13 23:27:53'' [[nbsp]] I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one not quite happy with my wording. I fully agree with you Stephen, but it's HARD trying to make this succinct and flexible<span>&nbsp;and accurate. It needs to make it clear that including text about the pretty/garish wallpaper is probably acceptable, but ''it's the sux0rs'' is not</span>. Hmmm... </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 23: </td> <td> Line 23: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> "This article include<span>s</span> ["NPOV/Definition" strong opinions] a<span>nd</span> may need revised. Click the "Edit" icon to <span>mak</span>e<span>&nbsp;changes.</span>" --["DaveMahon"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> "This article <span>may </span>include ["NPOV/Definition" strong opinions] <span>th</span>a<span>t</span> may need revised. Click the "Edit" icon <span>above </span>to <span>h</span>e<span>lp!</span>" --["DaveMahon"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=7&version2=8&ts=1187062073NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T03:27:53ZDaveMahonComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 20: </td> <td> Line 20: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-13 23:27:53'' [[nbsp]] I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one not quite happy with my wording. I fully agree with you Stephen, but it's HARD trying to make this succinct and flexible. Hmmm...<br> + <br> + "This article includes ["NPOV/Definition" strong opinions] and may need revised. Click the "Edit" icon to make changes." --["DaveMahon"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=6&version2=7&ts=1187056975NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T02:02:55ZeastsidestephenComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 18: </td> <td> Line 18: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-13 22:02:55'' [[nbsp]] More accurate, but less succinct. I think we can do better. --["EastSideStephen"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=5&version2=6&ts=1187056763NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T01:59:23Zrottenchesteredited comment <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 13: </td> <td> Line 13: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> ''2007-08-13 21:57:36'' [[nbsp]] I <span>th</span>i<span>n</span>k t<span>he right way to say it is "T</span>his a<span>r</span>ti<span>cle is the subject </span>o<span>f a dispute" but that still does</span>n<span>'t sound</span> too<span>&nbsp;good</span>. </td> <td> <span>+</span> ''2007-08-13 21:57:36'' [[nbsp]] <span>&nbsp;</span>I <span>l</span>ik<span>e</span> this a<span>ddi</span>tion<span>,</span> too. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 15: </td> <td> Line 15: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- How about "The community isn't sure this article is written from a ["NPOV/Definition" Neutral Point of View]. If you think you can improve it, click the "Edit" icon above"</span> </td> <td> <span>+ I think the right way to say it is "This article is the subject of a dispute" but that still doesn't sound too good.</span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 17: </td> <td> Line 17: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>- <br> - <br> - I like this addition, too. --["RottenChester"]</span> </td> <td> <span>+ How about "The community isn't sure this article is written from a ["NPOV/Definition" Neutral Point of View]. If you can improve it, click the "Edit" icon above." --["RottenChester"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=4&version2=5&ts=1187056656NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T01:57:36ZrottenchesterComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 12: </td> <td> Line 12: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-13 21:57:36'' [[nbsp]] I think the right way to say it is "This article is the subject of a dispute" but that still doesn't sound too good.<br> + <br> + How about "The community isn't sure this article is written from a ["NPOV/Definition" Neutral Point of View]. If you think you can improve it, click the "Edit" icon above"<br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + I like this addition, too. --["RottenChester"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=3&version2=4&ts=1187055061NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T01:31:01ZeastsidestephenComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 10: </td> <td> Line 10: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-13 21:31:01'' [[nbsp]] BTW, I don't love my phrasing either. It's taken directly from Wikipedia's NPOV tag, but it sounds a bit awkward to me. Can "disputed" be an adjective? Do we have any grammar experts who can verify the correctness of the phrasing, or possibly fix it if it's wrong? --["EastSideStephen"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=2&version2=3&ts=1187054863NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T01:27:43Zeastsidestephenremoved odd CR <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 9: </td> <td> Line 9: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <span>-</span> We have had a lot of discussions regarding how we, as a community, should define NPOV. We have generally agreed there is a little room for some non-controversial opinion and conventional wisdom alongside actual facts.<span><br> - </span> --["EastSideStephen"] </td> <td> <span>+</span> We have had a lot of discussions regarding how we, as a community, should define NPOV. We have generally agreed there is a little room for some non-controversial opinion and conventional wisdom alongside actual facts. --["EastSideStephen"] </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=1&version2=2&ts=1187054827NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T01:27:07ZeastsidestephenComment added. <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 7: </td> <td> Line 7: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ------<br> + ''2007-08-13 21:27:07'' [[nbsp]] Nice addition Dave. I think this tag will be useful. I changed the phrasing because NPOV is not always black-and-white, so it may be tough to definitively say an article is biased.<br> + We have had a lot of discussions regarding how we, as a community, should define NPOV. We have generally agreed there is a little room for some non-controversial opinion and conventional wisdom alongside actual facts.<br> + --["EastSideStephen"]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div> https://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talkhttps://rocwiki.org/NPOV/Talk?action=diff&version1=0&version2=1&ts=1187054025NPOV/Talk2007-08-14T01:13:45Zeastsidestephen <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for NPOV/Talk<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ ["NPOV" Parent Page]<br> + <br> + == Talk Page==<br> + This page is where differences in opinions about RocWiki pages are resolved, and notes are left from one contributor to another related to content.<br> + <br> + [[Comments(Talk about the parent page:)]]</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>