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downtownisforparking — 2018-08-04T18:12:34Z

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alexandergartley — 2015-11-20T20:16:25Z

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EileenF — 2013-07-02T22:47:57Z

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EileenF — 2012-09-14T22:29:35Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T23:29:03Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T23:28:41Z

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- * There are too many cars. A nationwide problem, indeed, but the issue is particularly acute in Rochester due to the [https://rocwiki.org/RGRTA dismal bus system] and the ["Abandoned Subway" dead subway system,] which forces [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_dependency automobile dependency.] Also contributes to suburban and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_decay urban blight.] Money given to Rochester for growth have been mainly [http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20120218/OPINION02/302180018/1-390-Kendrick-Road-new-highway-interchange-University-of-Rochester-Seligman?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cs been focused upon road projects] to reduce congestion.	+ * There are too many cars. A nationwide problem, indeed, but the issue is ["Automobile Problem"particularly acute in Rochester.]

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T20:35:59Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T20:35:14Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T18:45:48Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T18:44:54Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T18:44:08Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T18:43:03Z

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bammerburn — 2012-02-18T18:42:13Z

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gvanocker — 2010-08-30T20:07:23Z

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alexandergartley — 2010-01-25T05:16:42Z

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- * 63 of 107 tracts in New York with the highest health-risk measures from industrial pollutants are in Rochester and surrounding Monroe County. We also have the single most polluted tract, near ["Eastman Kodak"]. ([http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--unhealthyair-newy1213dec13,0,3342492.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork link])	+ * 63 of 107 tracts in New York with the highest health-risk measures from industrial pollutants are in Rochester and surrounding ["Monroe County"]. We also have the single most polluted tract, near ["Eastman Kodak"]. ([http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--unhealthyair-newy1213dec13,0,3342492.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork link])

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alexandergartley — 2010-01-25T05:13:25Z

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jasonharemza — 2009-11-24T22:07:04Z

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	+ * The local media, especially the ["Democrat and Chronicle"], are sloppy and amateurish when they're not just being lazy. + * Few Rochesterians will frequent a place if they have to park more than 25 feet from the front door. The idea of city life, where you walk for blocks, is a completely foreign concept to most of them, even the people who live in the actual city. I know this is a generally American phenomenon and not limited to Rochester, but it's frustrating when even "city dwellers" in Rochester expect convenient parking. + * The lack of a robust, energetic, grass-roots, bottom up, can-do community development mentality (with a few exceptions). Most neighborhoods I find are waiting for "the city" to come along and fix things. I credit this mentality to the long legacy of benign corporate paternalism from Kodak and fairly competent city management. Buffalo, by contrast, has a lot more of the "let's pull ourselves up" initiative since the municipal government there is so completely incompetent and corrupt people would rather it not get involved.

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batguano — 2008-12-15T17:39:41Z

Added my two cents

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	+ * Generally it seems that with Rochester, if you build it, they won't come.

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BradMandell — 2008-09-21T19:25:57Z

ADOPT Lonely Planet

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	+ * ["Lonely Planet"], a major travel guide does not even list ["Rochester"] or the ["Finger Lakes"].

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BradMandell — 2008-09-18T03:57:30Z

ADOPT Fix Buffalo

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- * "[http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060126/NEWS0201/601260351/1002/NEWS Is Rochester the new poster city for upstate decline?]" - At least we're not Fallujah. '''See also ["Allentown"]''' - Billy Joel song applies???	+ * "[http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060126/NEWS0201/601260351/1002/NEWS Is Rochester the new poster city for upstate decline?]" - At least we're not Fallujah. '''See also ["Fix Buffalo"] and ["Allentown"]''' - Billy Joel song applies???

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BradMandell — 2008-09-17T11:48:46Z

add allentown link to upstate decline entry

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DaveMahon — 2008-06-28T15:04:38Z

citing Weird Al Yankovic to define Rochester conservatism :-)

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- * The "Conservative Vibe" seems to be embedded in the dirt. Everyone I talk with about daring projects is very concerned about how conservative Rochester is. What gives? It isn't.	+ * The "Conservative Vibe" seems to be embedded in the dirt. Everyone I talk with about daring projects is very concerned about how conservative Rochester is. What gives? It isn't. [[Footnote(While there is a good-size politically conservative population, I think the conservative your associates are referring to can be summed up by [http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/weirdalyankovic/wheniwasyourage.html When I Was Your Age] by Weird Al Yankovic.)]]

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MariahBetz — 2008-06-02T06:27:32Z

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- * Crack and smack heads on ["Monroe Ave"] always trying to tell me jokes which are not funny :( :( - * Street walkers in Rochester rarely wear sexy outfits like in other major cities.	+ * Crack and smack heads on ["Monroe Ave"] always trying to tell me jokes which are not funny :( :( + * Street walkers in Rochester rarely wear sexy outfits like in other major cities.

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MariahBetz — 2008-06-02T06:27:10Z

added sardonic and inappropriate comments about junkies and hookers

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	+ * Crack and smack heads on ["Monroe Ave"] always trying to tell me jokes which are not funny :( :( + * Street walkers in Rochester rarely wear sexy outfits like in other major cities.

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PhilNg — 2008-03-13T03:00:08Z

taxes1 is broke.

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alexandergartley — 2007-11-14T03:53:45Z

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- * We have plenty of excellent science and technology, but companies need more local venture capital. We also need to convince more UR and RIT students to work in Rochester after school.	+ * We have plenty of excellent science and technology, but companies need more local venture capital. We also need to convince more ["UR"] and ["RIT"] students to work in Rochester after school.

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CarolLucky — 2007-08-21T21:21:58Z

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	+ * The Rochester City Schools have a bad reputation because they really do suck or because everyone thinks so. They have sucked for years and don't seem to be getting better. This is adding to the decline of the City because everyone moves to the burbs when the kids are old enough to go to school...

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DaveMahon — 2007-08-15T19:26:54Z

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BrianClancy — 2007-03-12T09:25:34Z

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JeremiahParry-Hill — 2007-03-06T16:27:53Z

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- * Rochester has the fifth highest rate of gonorrhea in the nation[[FootNote(STD Unit, Monroe County Department of Public Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2002))]]	+ * As of 2002, Rochester had the fifth-highest rate of gonorrhea in the nation[[FootNote(STD Unit, Monroe County Department of Public Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2002))]]

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JasonOlshefsky — 2007-03-06T14:25:24Z

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PhilipWarburton — 2007-03-06T00:41:47Z

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N8Riley — 2006-07-30T16:26:36Z

This is real Pessimism it laed to death,crimes and sickness.I'm WAITING 2 MONTHS

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- * There's a sucker born every minute and we're it. Point 1: every major development project is spearheaded by greedy corporate developers -- just check out ["Renaissance Square"], the proposal for a ["casino"], and the ["PaeTec Park"] soccer stadium, and perhaps even ["Brooks Landing Project"] (remains to be seen!). Point 2: ["CATS"] was a bunch of 30-somethings who had no idea how to run a ["Fast Ferry" ferry] company, yet we bet the farm on them and they ran off with $30,000,000. How come we weren't dealing with ["Bay Ferries"] in the first place?[[FootNote(I suspect it's because the cost of purchasing and transporting a brand new ferry craft to Rochester from Australia, building and leasing a ferry terminal, securing government grants and other outside financing, etc. was just too much to do for Bay Ferries. On the other hand, once they were offered an almost Turn-Key operation, with no financial risk, they jumped at it. Also, that $30,000,000 came from somewhere, and that somewhere ain't getting it back, and won't be happy about it. CATS can just declare bankruptcy and walk away, Bay Ferries is a well established company.)]]	+ * There's a sucker born every minute and we're it. Point 1: every major development project is spearheaded by greedy corporate developers -- just check out ["Renaissance Square"], the proposal for a ["casino"], and the ["PaeTec Park"] soccer stadium, and perhaps even ["Brooks Landing Project"] (remains to be seen!). Point 2: ["CATS"] was a bunch of 30-somethings who had no idea how to run a ["Fast Ferry" ferry] company, yet we bet the farm on them and they ran off with $30,000,000. How come we weren't dealing with ["Bay Ferries"] in the first place?[[FootNote(I suspect it's because the cost of purchasing and transporting a brand new ferry craft to Rochester from Australia, building and leasing a ferry terminal, securing government grants and other outside financing, etc. was just too much to do for Bay Ferries. On the other hand, once they were offered an almost Turn-Key operation, with no financial risk, they jumped at it. Also, that $30,000,000 came from somewhere, and that somewhere ain't getting it back, and won't be happy about it. CATS can just declare bankruptcy and walk away, Bay Ferries is a well established company.)]]
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BrentIrvine — 2006-05-14T15:39:27Z

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	+ * The local news goes out of its way to put a damp cloth on anything positive economically in the area. Seems that if everyone in the area got large amounts of money or success, and the news would find some reason why this would be bad.

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TomMaszerowski — 2006-05-09T21:00:21Z

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- * There's a sucker born every minute and we're it. Point 1: every major development project is spearheaded by greedy corporate developers -- just check out ["Renaissance Square"], the proposal for a ["casino"], and the ["PaeTec Park"], and perhaps even ["Brooks Landing Project"] (remains to be seen!). Point 2: ["CATS"] was a bunch of 30-somethings who had no idea how to run a ["Fast Ferry" ferry] company, yet we bet the farm on them and they ran off with $30,000,000. How come we weren't dealing with ["Bay Ferries"] in the first place?[[FootNote(I suspect it's because the cost of purchasing and transporting a brand new ferry craft to Rochester from Australia, building and leasing a ferry terminal, securing government grants and other outside financing, etc. was just too much to do for Bay Ferries. On the other hand, once they were offered an almost Turn-Key operation, with no financial risk, they jumped at it. Also, that $30,000,000 came from somewhere, and that somewhere ain't getting it back, and won't be happy about it. CATS can just declare bankruptcy and walk away, Bay Ferries is a well established company.)]]	+ * There's a sucker born every minute and we're it. Point 1: every major development project is spearheaded by greedy corporate developers -- just check out ["Renaissance Square"], the proposal for a ["casino"], and the ["PaeTec Park"] soccer stadium, and perhaps even ["Brooks Landing Project"] (remains to be seen!). Point 2: ["CATS"] was a bunch of 30-somethings who had no idea how to run a ["Fast Ferry" ferry] company, yet we bet the farm on them and they ran off with $30,000,000. How come we weren't dealing with ["Bay Ferries"] in the first place?[[FootNote(I suspect it's because the cost of purchasing and transporting a brand new ferry craft to Rochester from Australia, building and leasing a ferry terminal, securing government grants and other outside financing, etc. was just too much to do for Bay Ferries. On the other hand, once they were offered an almost Turn-Key operation, with no financial risk, they jumped at it. Also, that $30,000,000 came from somewhere, and that somewhere ain't getting it back, and won't be happy about it. CATS can just declare bankruptcy and walk away, Bay Ferries is a well established company.)]]

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TomMaszerowski — 2006-05-09T20:59:27Z

Changed soccer stadium to PaeTec Park

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JasonOlshefsky — 2006-02-02T12:47:36Z

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RobertPolyn — 2006-02-02T04:48:02Z

mark hare's editorial

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RobertPolyn — 2005-12-14T01:48:48Z

mmmmm industrial pollutants...

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	+ * 63 of 107 tracts in New York with the highest health-risk measures from industrial pollutants are in Rochester and surrounding Monroe County. We also have the single most polluted tract, near ["Eastman Kodak"]. ([http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--unhealthyair-newy1213dec13,0,3342492.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork link])

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JayUnnikrishnan — 2005-08-14T13:11:23Z

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	+ * Rochester has the fifth highest rate of gonorrhea in the nation[[FootNote(STD Unit, Monroe County Department of Public Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2002))]]

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JackCalcines — 2005-07-07T00:07:13Z

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- * There's a sucker born every minute and we're it. Point 1: every major development project is spearheaded by greedy corporate developers -- just check out ["Renaissance Square"], the proposal for a ["casino"], and the ["soccer stadium"], and perhaps even ["Brooks Landing Project"] (remains to be seen!). Point 2: ["CATS"] was a bunch of 30-somethings who had no idea how to run a ["Fast Ferry" ferry] company, yet we bet the farm on them and they ran off with $30,000,000. How come we weren't dealing with ["Bay Ferries"] in the first place?	+ * There's a sucker born every minute and we're it. Point 1: every major development project is spearheaded by greedy corporate developers -- just check out ["Renaissance Square"], the proposal for a ["casino"], and the ["soccer stadium"], and perhaps even ["Brooks Landing Project"] (remains to be seen!). Point 2: ["CATS"] was a bunch of 30-somethings who had no idea how to run a ["Fast Ferry" ferry] company, yet we bet the farm on them and they ran off with $30,000,000. How come we weren't dealing with ["Bay Ferries"] in the first place?[[FootNote(I suspect it's because the cost of purchasing and transporting a brand new ferry craft to Rochester from Australia, building and leasing a ferry terminal, securing government grants and other outside financing, etc. was just too much to do for Bay Ferries. On the other hand, once they were offered an almost Turn-Key operation, with no financial risk, they jumped at it. Also, that $30,000,000 came from somewhere, and that somewhere ain't getting it back, and won't be happy about it. CATS can just declare bankruptcy and walk away, Bay Ferries is a well established company.)]]

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TobinFricke — 2005-06-27T16:43:03Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-06-26T18:26:00Z

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JasonOlshefsky — 2005-06-26T07:10:32Z

Added "suckers," and "conservative vibe."

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RobertErbland — 2005-06-25T23:54:14Z

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- * [http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?csz=14650&gettrf=Get+Traffic] Just try to escape, just try...	+ * [http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?csz=14650&gettrf=Get+Traffic Getting Around Town] Just try to escape, just try...

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RobertErbland — 2005-06-25T23:53:10Z

Maps, useful useful maps

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RobertPolyn — 2005-06-23T05:02:19Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-06-23T01:22:31Z

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TobinFricke — 2005-06-22T23:07:32Z

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FarMcKon — 2005-06-19T17:13:10Z

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	+ * The City and County Government cares very little about citizen input.

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JayUnnikrishnan — 2005-06-19T16:59:45Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-15T00:02:47Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-15T00:01:24Z

Upload of image rochesterblue.jpg.

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TobinFricke — 2005-05-11T06:24:30Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-10T21:46:38Z

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RobertPolyn — 2005-05-10T19:35:12Z

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