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EileenF — 2013-01-07T22:40:44Z

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	+ ------ + ''2013-01-07 17:40:44'' [[nbsp]] The consensus seems to be "delete it." --["Users/EileenF"]

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peteb — 2013-01-07T22:30:48Z

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- ''2012-12-28 19:00:06'' [[nbsp]] FYI this proposal was created by a recently-passed member named ["user/bradmandell"]. I see no reason why we can't make changes. --["Users/peteb"]	+ ''2012-12-28 19:00:06'' [[nbsp]] FYI this proposal was created by a recently-passed member named ["users/bradmandell"]. I see no reason why we can't make changes. --["Users/peteb"]

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jgerek — 2013-01-02T14:38:38Z

-Take-Out Only and Take-Out Available links

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- My suggestion is to have a ["Take-Out Only"] (redirects here), use of ["Take-Out Food"] for those with significant focus or featured and ["Take-Out Available"] (redirects here) for places where take-out is an advertised option. Use of the LinksHere macro with the aforementioned page names will generate the automated lists for the three possibilities.	+ My suggestion is to have a Take-Out Only (redirects here), use of ["Take-Out Food"] for those with significant focus or featured and Take-Out Available (redirects here) for places where take-out is an advertised option. Use of the LinksHere macro with the aforementioned page names will generate the automated lists for the three possibilities.

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peteb — 2012-12-29T00:00:06Z

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	+ ------ + ''2012-12-28 19:00:06'' [[nbsp]] FYI this proposal was created by a recently-passed member named ["user/bradmandell"]. I see no reason why we can't make changes. --["Users/peteb"]

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TippingPoint — 2012-12-28T23:28:35Z

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	+ ------ + ''2012-12-28 18:28:35'' [[nbsp]] I'm glad that after almost 3 years of bringing this up, there is a resolution :-P --["Users/tippingpoint"]

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peteb — 2012-12-28T20:29:00Z

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	+ ------ + ''2012-12-28 15:29:00'' [[nbsp]] I agree...we can scratch it --["Users/peteb"]

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EileenF — 2012-12-28T20:24:48Z

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	+ ------ + ''2012-12-28 15:24:48'' [[nbsp]] Agreed. I'm not sure we need this category either, since just about every restaurant I know does take-out (except maybe the fancy ones, I supppose that's a given). I guess the problem then would be going to all the pages listed and deleting the Take-Out page links. --["Users/EileenF"]

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jgerek — 2012-12-28T18:52:43Z

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	+ ------ + ''2012-12-28 13:52:43'' [[nbsp]] This category has become very jumbled, with many entries to headings etc. It also has some, but not all, Chinese and Pizza joints which is misleading. While there still are a very few 'take-out only' places (primarily Pizza and Chinese) the availability of take-out at a restaurant is no longer unique or meaningful. I don't know of a single restaurant that would not sell you something if you asked to take it out. I vote for the category to go away. If others don't agree the category at least neads major clean-up and policing to be useful. --["Users/jgerek"]

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MVP — 2011-06-02T17:52:20Z

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	+ ------ + ''2011-06-02 13:52:20'' [[nbsp]] I agree that since most places offer take-out a more helpful / useable implementation would be to have a listing of restaurants by area, be it zip code or town. Perhaps the city would be divided by quadrants also. --["Users/MVP"]

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peteb — 2010-05-19T11:55:08Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-05-19 07:55:08'' [[nbsp]] Personally I'd leave delis as is....they're unique enough already. Any other thoughts? --["Users/PeteB"]

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JackGreenky — 2010-05-19T04:55:03Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-05-19 00:55:03'' [[nbsp]] The word Delicatessen shows up in a lot of entries, and usually means a take-out of some kind - should that get a page indexing all those entries? (I did not even check for deli, which probably has others) - there are a wide variety of places that use that word - should that be commented on too? --["Users/JackGreenky"]

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ReyTucker — 2010-02-22T03:26:50Z

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	+ * Now implemented on the LinksHere macro itself, with either AND or OR! See ["Macro List"]. --["Users/RyanTucker"]

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BradMandell — 2010-02-19T15:42:01Z

reorganize, hdrs, take out the WIP, and TOC it

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	+ [[TableOfContents]] + ===What do we want to accomplish=== + '''''Take-Out''''' information may be important to RocWiki viewers, some on the individual establishment's page and other for selection and review of alternatives.
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- [[Include(Work-In-Progress)]]	+ Viewers might wish to know whether a particular establishment offers take-out, has a separate take-out menu and/or ordering system, etc. Some might be interested if the take-out establishments also allows eat-in. These features would seem most relevant when viewed on the individual pages.
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- '''''Take-Out''''' is an important feature of many restaurants, they advertise it, promote it on their website, have separate Take-Out menus, have phone, fax, and/or online ordering, etc. Some establishments are primarily Take-out only and have no eat-in space, or only a few tables where customers wait, but could eat as well. Other establishments make take-out available, but don't advertise or promote it.	+ Viewers may also wish to view lists of establishments offering take-out so that they could select an establishment, brand or cuisine. Such a list would be most useful if organized by town, region, etc. Inclusion of food style may be important in the list, where the store brand does not necessarily suggest it. + ===Why is it important=== + + ''''Take-Out''' is an important feature of many restaurants, they advertise it, promote it on their website, have separate Take-Out menus, have phone, fax, and/or online ordering, etc. Some establishments are primarily Take-out only and have no eat-in space, or only a few tables where customers wait, but could eat as well. Other establishments make take-out available, but don't advertise or promote it.
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- '''''Take-Out''''' information may be of interest to RocWiki viewers. Knowing whether a particular establishment offers take-out, has a separate take-out menu and/or ordering system, etc. Some might be interested if the take-out establishments also allows eat-in. These features would seem most relevant when viewed on the individual pages. - - Viewers may also wish to view lists of establishments offering take-out so that they could select an establishment, brand or cuisine. Such a list would be most useful if organized by town, region, etc. - - '''Dealing with other categories''':	+ ===Dealing with other categories===
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BradMandell — 2010-02-19T15:28:21Z

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	+ ==Proposal February 19, 2009== + + [[Include(Work-In-Progress)]] + + '''''Take-Out''''' is an important feature of many restaurants, they advertise it, promote it on their website, have separate Take-Out menus, have phone, fax, and/or online ordering, etc. Some establishments are primarily Take-out only and have no eat-in space, or only a few tables where customers wait, but could eat as well. Other establishments make take-out available, but don't advertise or promote it. + + Some examples: + * ["Applebee's"], for example, has its [http://www.applebees.com/CarsideLanding.aspx Carside To-Go] feature + * ["Wegmans"] currently promotes its take-home meals + + '''''Take-Out''''' information may be of interest to RocWiki viewers. Knowing whether a particular establishment offers take-out, has a separate take-out menu and/or ordering system, etc. Some might be interested if the take-out establishments also allows eat-in. These features would seem most relevant when viewed on the individual pages. + + Viewers may also wish to view lists of establishments offering take-out so that they could select an establishment, brand or cuisine. Such a list would be most useful if organized by town, region, etc. + + '''Dealing with other categories''': + + RocWiki already has separate categories for ["Pizza"] and ["Chinese Food"], big players in the take-out world. For these categories, the exception of "No-Takeout" may be the key overriding the default. Some "high-end" restaurants may not offer take-out. Chinese Food already has subcategories for Take-out only and dine in, but no breakout by area. Pizza is only broken down by chain vs local. + + There are also many "fast-food" establishments, delis, self-serve, and serving-line style establishments, and buffets that offer the alternative of To-Go. + + For the viewer looking for take-out within their driving zone, these other establishments may be viable options and the viewer could benefit by having them in the lists by geography. + + One option for these other categories would be to create an Include-able page for their take-out which could also appear on the Take-Out page. + + '''SUGGESTED IMPLEMENTATION''': + + 1. Use the {{{["Take-Out"]}}} link for all establishments that feature, advertise, or promote take-out + * Use the {{{["Take-Out Only"]}}} link for any establishment that does not offer a traditional eat-in facility + * Use the {{{["Take-Out Available"]}}} link for any establishments that do not promote take-out but are known to offer it on request. + * Have the "Only", and "Available" links be redirects to the Take-Out page. + * Reorganize the listings by region or town (??a 5-10 minute drive away??) + * Examine the Pizza and Chinese Food listings for integration with the Take-Out + * Consider the other "fast food" or "fast-serve" listings for inclusion + + '''A Possible Macro Solution:''' + A '''''LinksHereAll''''' macro that works similar to the LinksHere macro but which takes multiple arguments and returns a list of only those pages which have all the listed links. + For example: {{{ [[LinksHereAll(Take-Out, Webster)]] }}} would deliver a list of all the establishments linked to both Take-Out and Webster.

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peteb — 2010-02-18T23:52:08Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-02-18 18:52:08'' [[nbsp]] But you've got Wegman's which also has a large seating area....My suggestion is that take-out only should refer to restaurants that ONLY OFFER TAKE-OUT--NO SEATING AVAILABLE AT ALL --["Users/PeteB"]

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BradMandell — 2010-02-18T23:05:39Z

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- My suggestion is to have a ["Take-Out Only"] (redirects here), use of ["Take-Out Food"] for those with significant focus or featured and ["Take-Out Available"] (redirects here) for places where take-out is a minor option. Use of the LinksHere macro with the aforementioned page names will generate the automated lists for the three possibilities.	+ My suggestion is to have a ["Take-Out Only"] (redirects here), use of ["Take-Out Food"] for those with significant focus or featured and ["Take-Out Available"] (redirects here) for places where take-out is an advertised option. Use of the LinksHere macro with the aforementioned page names will generate the automated lists for the three possibilities. + + The featured places examples are some of the major chains that now have a separate Take-Out parking and entrance for their "order out" by phone, fax, and internet customers. There are also restaurants which provide take out via secondary ["Food Delivery" delivery services]. + + I think that any establishment in the ["Fast Food"] category is automatically included as take-out there and does not have to appear here. +

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BradMandell — 2010-02-18T22:59:42Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-02-18 17:59:42'' [[nbsp]] The Take-Out Only category is very limited, because many places that are PRIMARILY take-out may have one or two small tables for people to wait at - OR EAT at, hence not absolutely Take-Out Only. ["Yummy House"] is an example. --["Users/BradMandell"]

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peteb — 2010-02-18T22:47:08Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-02-18 17:47:08'' [[nbsp]] Moe's is not Take-Out only.... --["Users/PeteB"]

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BradMandell — 2010-02-18T22:43:13Z

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- My suggestion is to have a ["Take-Out Only"] (redirects here), use of ["Take-Out Food"] for those with significant focus or featured and ["Take-Out Available"] (redirects here) for places where take-out is a minor option. Use of the LinksHere macro with the aforementioned page names will generate the automated lists for the three possibilities. --["Users/BradMandell"]	+ My suggestion is to have a ["Take-Out Only"] (redirects here), use of ["Take-Out Food"] for those with significant focus or featured and ["Take-Out Available"] (redirects here) for places where take-out is a minor option. Use of the LinksHere macro with the aforementioned page names will generate the automated lists for the three possibilities. + Take-Out Food is link directly at the top of the ["Restaurants"] page --["Users/BradMandell"]

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BradMandell — 2010-02-18T22:39:41Z

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BradMandell — 2010-02-18T22:38:46Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-02-18 17:38:46'' [[nbsp]] Good point, ["Users/TippingPoint"] (:>) + + It might be useful to distinguish, however, between those that are Tako-Out Only, those that have a significant focus on Take-Out, those that "feature" their take-out, and those that do it as an aside. + + My suggestion is to have a ["Take-Out Only"] (redirects here), use of ["Take-Out Food] for those with significant focus or featured and ["Take-Out Available"] (redirects here) for places where take-out is a minor option. Use of the LinksHere macro with the aforementioned page names will generate the automated lists for the three possibilities. + --["Users/BradMandell"]

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peteb — 2010-02-18T22:36:18Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-02-18 17:36:18'' [[nbsp]] Tipping--I agree but some restaurants (small) don't have eat-in..are take-out only --["Users/PeteB"]

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TippingPoint — 2010-02-18T22:25:09Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-02-18 17:25:09'' [[nbsp]] I don't understand the point of this page. Almost every restaurant I can think of offers take-out. I can understand if this page is only for "Take-out only", but thats not the case with some of the entries listed. --["Users/TippingPoint"]

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TippingPoint — 2010-02-18T22:23:23Z

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	+ This page is for discussing the contents of ["Take-Out Food"]. + + + [[comments]]