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MrRochester — 2009-01-21T03:09:31Z

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- ''2007-08-30 18:24:48'' [[nbsp]] What Steve defines as "upscale" might be better described as "fine dining". I can see "upscale" rataining its broader definition, and including restaurants which could be described as "fine dining", "trendy", "nouveau-anything", etc. Maybe sub-headings within the category would be helpful?	+ ''2007-08-30 18:24:48'' [[nbsp]] What Mr defines as "upscale" might be better described as "fine dining". I can see "upscale" rataining its broader definition, and including restaurants which could be described as "fine dining", "trendy", "nouveau-anything", etc. Maybe sub-headings within the category would be helpful?

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MrRochester — 2009-01-21T03:09:09Z

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- ''2007-08-30 22:29:37'' [[nbsp]] I think this is why many restaurant guides simply divvy up establishments based on the cost of entrees and whether they are a la carte or not. This seems to be the case with the current list of upscale restaurants. SteveVogt seems to be looking for French-style [wiki:Wikipedia:Haute_cuisine haute cuisine], which admittedly, is lacking in Rochester. By his definition, however, there can be no upscale traditional Chinese/Japanese restaurants in the world, as European silverware would be out of place and undesirable in such a setting. --["DaveMahon"]	+ ''2007-08-30 22:29:37'' [[nbsp]] I think this is why many restaurant guides simply divvy up establishments based on the cost of entrees and whether they are a la carte or not. This seems to be the case with the current list of upscale restaurants. MrRochester seems to be looking for French-style [wiki:Wikipedia:Haute_cuisine haute cuisine], which admittedly, is lacking in Rochester. By his definition, however, there can be no upscale traditional Chinese/Japanese restaurants in the world, as European silverware would be out of place and undesirable in such a setting. --["DaveMahon"]

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MrRochester — 2009-01-16T18:15:16Z

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- ''2007-08-30 17:05:46'' [[nbsp]] I'd like to open up the floor for the discussion of the definition of "upscale". Some people seem to disagree with some of the classifications of restaurants, so let's settle on a definition of "upscale" and go from there. ["SteveVogt"], I'm especially interested in your definitions of both "upscale" and "trendy", what the difference is, and why it matters. --["RachelBlumenthal"]	+ ''2007-08-30 17:05:46'' [[nbsp]] I'd like to open up the floor for the discussion of the definition of "upscale". Some people seem to disagree with some of the classifications of restaurants, so let's settle on a definition of "upscale" and go from there. ["Users/MrRochester"], I'm especially interested in your definitions of both "upscale" and "trendy", what the difference is, and why it matters. --["RachelBlumenthal"]
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- Upscale - A suit or better would be proper attire. --["SteveVogt"]	+ Upscale - A suit or better would be proper attire. --["Users/MrRochester"]

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AndreaCogliati — 2007-09-15T17:55:12Z

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- An upscale restaurant must have top ratings in every category (well, I can accept low rating for location, maybe). Therefore, as good food, wine, location, furniture, dishes, glassware, silwerware and people cost money, in a sense, upscale has to do with price. When friends ask me for good restaurants for cheap prices I simpy answer: "There's nothing like that". You can have good food for reasonable price, but you'll probably have to sacrifice something else. More often, you would eat bad food and be overwhelmingly charged!	+ An upscale restaurant must have top ratings in every category (well, I can accept low rating for location, maybe). Therefore, as good food, wine, location, furniture, dishes, glassware, silverware and people cost money, in a sense, upscale has to do with price. When friends ask me for good restaurants for cheap prices I simply answer: "There's nothing like that". You can have good food for reasonable price, but you'll probably have to sacrifice something else. More often, you would eat bad food and be overwhelmingly charged!
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- So, my suggestion is to specify, where appropriate, if the restaurant excels in one or more of the factor I mentioned. --["AndreaCogliati"]	+ So, my suggestion is to specify, where appropriate, if the restaurant excels in one or more of the factors I mentioned. --["AndreaCogliati"]

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AndreaCogliati — 2007-09-14T18:32:43Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-09-14 14:32:43'' [[nbsp]] Just my 2 european cents to the upscale restaurant definition discussion. + + I usually rate restaurants based on the following six factors: Food, Wine List, Location, Ambient, Presentation, Service + + An upscale restaurant must have top ratings in every category (well, I can accept low rating for location, maybe). Therefore, as good food, wine, location, furniture, dishes, glassware, silwerware and people cost money, in a sense, upscale has to do with price. When friends ask me for good restaurants for cheap prices I simpy answer: "There's nothing like that". You can have good food for reasonable price, but you'll probably have to sacrifice something else. More often, you would eat bad food and be overwhelmingly charged! + + So, my suggestion is to specify, where appropriate, if the restaurant excels in one or more of the factor I mentioned. --["AndreaCogliati"]

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rottenchester — 2007-09-14T16:39:53Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-09-14 12:39:53'' [[nbsp]] Andrea, welcome to RocWiki. If you see a page that is misnamed, go ahead and rename the page. When you do a rename, the software redirects people from the old page to the new one, so there's no risk of links breaking. --["RottenChester"]

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AndreaCogliati — 2007-09-14T15:41:10Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-09-14 11:41:10'' [[nbsp]] Hi there! I've just moved in from Italy with my wife as she's started a PhD at UoR. + + RocWiki have been an invaluable resource to us, thanks! + + Just a question regarding this section: why do you keep listing Bamba Bistro as Rio Bamba (its old name)? I was tempted to edit the page but as I don't know the etiquette here I don't want to start with the wrong foot! :-) --["AndreaCogliati"]

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DaveMahon — 2007-08-31T16:28:23Z

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- ''2007-08-30 22:29:37'' [[nbsp]] I think this is why many restaurant guides simply divvy up establishments based on the cost of entrees and whether they are a la carte or not. This seems to be the case with the current list of upscale restaurants. --["DaveMahon"]	+ ''2007-08-30 22:29:37'' [[nbsp]] I think this is why many restaurant guides simply divvy up establishments based on the cost of entrees and whether they are a la carte or not. This seems to be the case with the current list of upscale restaurants. SteveVogt seems to be looking for French-style [wiki:Wikipedia:Haute_cuisine haute cuisine], which admittedly, is lacking in Rochester. By his definition, however, there can be no upscale traditional Chinese/Japanese restaurants in the world, as European silverware would be out of place and undesirable in such a setting. --["DaveMahon"]

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DaveMahon — 2007-08-31T02:29:37Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-30 22:29:37'' [[nbsp]] I think this is why many restaurant guides simply divvy up establishments based on the cost of entrees and whether they are a la carte or not. This seems to be the case with the current list of upscale restaurants. --["DaveMahon"]

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eastsidestephen — 2007-08-30T22:45:31Z

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- ''2007-08-30 18:24:48'' [[nbsp]] well, I think this is mostly a problem with semantics. What Steve defines as "upscale" might be better described as "fine dining". I can see upscale rataining its broader definition, and including restaurants which could be described as "fine dining", "trendy", "nouveau-anything", etc. Maybe sub-headings within the category would be helpful? - Honestly, this is Rochester - do we even have a single restaurant which requires the fellas to wear a jacket? - --["EastSideStephen"]	+ ''2007-08-30 18:24:48'' [[nbsp]] What Steve defines as "upscale" might be better described as "fine dining". I can see "upscale" rataining its broader definition, and including restaurants which could be described as "fine dining", "trendy", "nouveau-anything", etc. Maybe sub-headings within the category would be helpful? + Honestly, this is Rochester - do we even have a single restaurant which requires the fellas to wear a jacket? --["EastSideStephen"]

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eastsidestephen — 2007-08-30T22:29:15Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-30 18:29:15'' [[nbsp]] Oh, and regarding Steve's concern about out-of-town visitors: I think that might be best addressed in the restaurant's description. I don't think we need an "attire" note for every restaurant - just when its notable. --["EastSideStephen"]

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eastsidestephen — 2007-08-30T22:26:35Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-30 18:26:35'' [[nbsp]] That said, I do think there are several restaurants in the "upscale" list which dfinitely do not belong there. I'll let you Rochestarians fix that though. --["EastSideStephen"]

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eastsidestephen — 2007-08-30T22:24:48Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-30 18:24:48'' [[nbsp]] well, I think this is mostly a problem with semantics. What Steve defines as "upscale" might be better described as "fine dining". I can see upscale rataining its broader definition, and including restaurants which could be described as "fine dining", "trendy", "nouveau-anything", etc. Maybe sub-headings within the category would be helpful? + Honestly, this is Rochester - do we even have a single restaurant which requires the fellas to wear a jacket? + --["EastSideStephen"]

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rottenchester — 2007-08-30T21:46:37Z

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- ''2007-08-30 17:36:05'' [[nbsp]] I see your distinction, but I don't think "Trendy" is the right name for what you're trying to capture. To me, "Trendy" means "the latest popular place". --["RottenChester"]	+ ''2007-08-30 17:36:05'' [[nbsp]] I see your distinction. I also think the "upscale" category has become a catch-all for restaurants that aren't chains and have entrees that cost more than $20. But I don't think "Trendy" is the right name for what you're trying to capture. To me, "Trendy" means "the latest popular place". Also, if we're going to break upscale into sub-parts, which I think is probably worth doing, let's try for more than 2 (trendy vs upscale) --["RottenChester"]

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rottenchester — 2007-08-30T21:36:05Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-30 17:36:05'' [[nbsp]] I see your distinction, but I don't think "Trendy" is the right name for what you're trying to capture. To me, "Trendy" means "the latest popular place". --["RottenChester"]

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SteveVogt — 2007-08-30T21:24:21Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-30 17:24:21'' [[nbsp]] An upscale restaurant is one that serves sorbet to cleanse your palette and has an old world flavor to it. The place settings have more forks than you need and a dessert spoon. + + There are very few left in America. + + Upscale has nothing to do with price, it has to do with presentation and service. + + Trendy is the modern style of dining. Upscale food but a casual setting and relaxed service. + + It is important because those who have never been to the restaurant before or are from out of town should know how to dress/act at a restaurant. This is Rochester, we arent pretentious, so you will probably be served anyway. But it can help. + + Trendy - Southern California style where jeans and a sport coat are acceptable. + + Upscale - A suit or better would be proper attire. --["SteveVogt"]

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RachelBlumenthal — 2007-08-30T21:05:46Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-30 17:05:46'' [[nbsp]] I'd like to open up the floor for the discussion of the definition of "upscale". Some people seem to disagree with some of the classifications of restaurants, so let's settle on a definition of "upscale" and go from there. ["SteveVogt"], I'm especially interested in your definitions of both "upscale" and "trendy", what the difference is, and why it matters. --["RachelBlumenthal"]

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