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DottieHoffmann — 2021-08-11T11:18:25Z

Revert to version 28.

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peteb — 2013-03-14T03:30:29Z

seo statement

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	+ == SEO Activity == + SEO businesses are welcome to edit RocWiki. Please be aware that excessive or over-linking on pages for SEO purposes is not allowed. Admins reserve the right to remove excessive over-linking from any page at any time without warning. Excessive SEO-related linking can result in being banned from the Wiki. +

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ReyTucker — 2012-04-15T14:02:50Z

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- Those interested in researching a restaurant's inspection history can find a [http://php.democratandchronicle.com/RocDocs/restaurant_inspections/ frequently-updated database] maintained by the ["Democrat and Chronicle"].	+ Those interested in researching a restaurant's inspection history can find a [http://rocdocs.democratandchronicle.com/map/restaurant-inspections frequently-updated database] maintained by the ["Democrat and Chronicle"].

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peteb — 2011-09-16T21:34:51Z

+ restaurants-talk to managers

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	+ Regarding restaurant concerns, talking to a Manager at the restaurant can usually resolve most concerns. It is worth the effort. +

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peteb — 2011-09-11T20:55:20Z

+ clarification-no personal attacks on restaurant staff not involving operati

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- ''Please do not post negative comments about pest problems, cleanliness, or other public-health issues related to restaurants. The admins reserve the right to remove such comments.''	+ ''Please do not post negative comments about pest problems, cleanliness, or other public-health issues related to restaurants. Personal attacks on restaurant staff that have nothing to do with the restaurant's operation are also inappropriate. The admins reserve the right to remove such comments.''

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tccrochester — 2011-04-04T16:07:15Z

Upload of image intl chldr day - main.jpg.

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peteb — 2011-02-25T23:50:57Z

+ sockpuppet

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	+ == SockPuppets == + + A '''sockpuppet''' is a wiki account created for the purpose of convincing wiki readers that the account is owned by someone other than the person (or really, identity) that created it. For example, if Alice posts on the wiki using the username "Alice", she may wish to use a different username to post comments that do not appear to come from her. To achieve this, she may create another account called "Bob", so that wiki readers believe that Bob posted comments rather than Alice. + + See ["Sockpuppets"] for more info. The image is located at {{Sockpuppet}}

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ReyTucker — 2009-11-28T16:50:18Z

per list disc., adding section regarding restaurant cleanliness comments

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	+ == On Restaurants and Public Health Concerns == + The overwhelming majority of contributions to RocWiki are respectful and informative, including comments with complaints or concerns about businesses. However, a very small number cross a line, potentially damaging a business's reputation and hurting their livelihood. We do not want to "sugarcoat" or suppress legitimate criticism, but: + + ''Please do not post negative comments about pest problems, cleanliness, or other public-health issues related to restaurants. The admins reserve the right to remove such comments.'' + + RocWiki is not the proper forum for reporting immediate threats to public health and safety. In Monroe County, you can reach the [http://www.monroecounty.gov/eh-generalsanitation.php Department of Health's food protection hotline] at (585) 753-5064. For lesser concerns, talk to the owner or the manager. Most business owners are reasonable people, but they don't monitor RocWiki, so give them a chance to make things better. + + Those interested in researching a restaurant's inspection history can find a [http://php.democratandchronicle.com/RocDocs/restaurant_inspections/ frequently-updated database] maintained by the ["Democrat and Chronicle"]. +

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KarenFeinen — 2008-09-23T23:30:46Z

edited "Editing Your Own Page" for grammar, readability, etc.

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- == Editing your own page == - RocWiki has 'user pages' (currently just the username) for users to have a page about themselves where the put information. For users that are a 'public figure' or public figures that are '''NOT''' users, it's generally good form to not edit your own page. In the near future, there will be a ["Users"] section for wiki users, separate from the please-don't-edit-about-yourself 'person' page. If you are a user, and a moderately public person, please put your "user" page as "User/WikiUserName", and leave the Your Name (With Spaces) page alone.	+ == Editing Your Own Page == + RocWiki includes 'user pages' (currently just the username) to allow users to have a page about themselves. Please use your "user page" as a place to post information (as much or as little as you would like to share) about you. You may want to include photos as well as links to sites that interest you. Be aware that your user page is not the appropriate place for school projects or random non-Rochester related pages of information.
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- We don't have an official policy, but we will do allow contributors remove/close pages for people if they are not reasonably a 'public' figure (ie, not in the news, no newspaper article on them, not the head of a community group, company, etc) if they are asked. For public figures, the page usually end up staying after a discussion.	+ Please note: For users that are public figures or for public figures that are '''NOT''' users, it is generally not considered good form to edit your own page. In the near future, there will be a ["Users"] section for wiki users, separate from the please-don't-edit-about-yourself 'person' page. If you are a user, and a moderately public figure, please use the "User/WikiUserName" format for the title of your "user" page, and leave the page with "Your Name" (With Spaces) alone.
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- Please use your user page as a place to post information about yourself (as much or as little as you want to share with us). Your user page is not the place for school projects or random non-Rochester related info.	+ We don't have an official policy, but we do allow contributors to remove/close pages about people who are not reasonably significant 'public' figures (i.e., not in the news, no newspaper article on them, not the head of a community group, company, etc.) if they are asked. For those deemed to be actual public figures, the page usually ends up staying after a discussion.

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JaySweet — 2008-07-11T15:56:46Z

boldly adding a proposed change to Humor -- revert me if you disagree

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	+ + A general rule of thumb is to ask yourself, "Does this humorous/sarcastic comment/picture/etc. obscure useful information?" If so, it probably shouldn't be added. If not, go for it! For instance, adding ["Illuminati Catacomb System" a fictional item to a list of Rochester Oddities] probably doesn't hurt anything, especially if the list makes it clear that the item does not truly exist. On the other hand, photoshopping humorous objects into places of business is unhelpful, and may actually be considered offensive or even libelous by the business owner. Ask yourself whether or not you would be confused if you were a first-time visitor to RocWiki.

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DaveMahon — 2008-07-10T05:20:32Z

Complaints Department, mark 2

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- Humor is encouraged. That being said, we also want to be the 'People's guide to Rochester". Some complaints have been filed with the ["RobertPolyn" Complaints Dept.] about humor being distracting or problematic. There is a balance somewhere in there, god only knows if we'll ever find it. When in doubt, make the joke anyway, and '''someone''' will let you know if it's out of line.	+ Humor is encouraged. That being said, we also want to be the 'People's guide to Rochester". Some complaints have been filed with the ["Wiki Community/Mailing List" Complaints Dept.] about humor being distracting or problematic. There is a balance somewhere in there, god only knows if we'll ever find it. When in doubt, make the joke anyway, and '''someone''' will let you know if it's out of line.

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JoannaLicata — 2008-07-10T03:03:35Z

restored status of complaints dept because of it's return to rochester

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- Humor is encouraged. That being said, we also want to be the 'People's guide to Rochester". Some complaints have been filed with the [previous] ["RobertPolyn" complaints Dept.] about humor being distracting or problematic. There is a balance somewhere in there, god only knows if we'll ever find it. When in doubt, make the joke anyway, and '''someone''' will let you know if it's out of line.	+ Humor is encouraged. That being said, we also want to be the 'People's guide to Rochester". Some complaints have been filed with the ["RobertPolyn" Complaints Dept.] about humor being distracting or problematic. There is a balance somewhere in there, god only knows if we'll ever find it. When in doubt, make the joke anyway, and '''someone''' will let you know if it's out of line.

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DaveMahon — 2008-04-14T00:37:45Z

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- Whenever you have a lot of different people working on a project together, there need to be some basic rules or guidelines to keep everyone on the same page. This page covers the basics of RocWiki Etiquette. You may also find the lists of ["Wiki Community/Offenses" offenses] and ["Wiki Community/Not Offenses" non-offenses] helpful.	+ Whenever you have a lot of different people working on a project together, there need to be some basic rules or guidelines to keep everyone on the same page. This page covers the basics of RocWiki Etiquette. You may also find the lists of ["Wiki Community/Offenses" offenses] and ["Wiki Community/Not Offenses" non-offenses] helpful.
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	+ To request changes to this page, please post to its ["Wiki Community/Etiquette/Talk" Talk page]. If and when a consensus opinion forms about your proposal(s), the consensus opinion will be implemented by a member of the ["AdminGroup"].

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rottenchester — 2007-12-07T15:39:04Z

Expanded comment editing section.

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- That said, comments should be reasonably civil and should be relevant to the rest of the page comment. Personal grudges and in jokes, for example, don't belong on business pages. Likewise, meta-commentary should be considered eligible for deletion once the issue at hand has been resolved.	+ That said, comments should be reasonably civil and should be relevant to the rest of the page comment. Personal grudges and in jokes, for example, don't belong on business pages. Likewise, meta-commentary should be considered eligible for deletion once the issue at hand has been resolved. If you think a comment is completely irrelevant to the page content, move the comment to a talk page and discuss it there. This allows other interested community members to weigh in without cluttering up the main page.

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DaveMahon — 2007-12-07T04:19:35Z

adding to MrPhil's clarifications

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- Differences of opinion will arise from time to time. This is a Good thing. However, just because contributors have strongly opposing beliefs on a topic does not permit them to engage in personal insults, either explicit or implicit. What is implicit? Well that is in the mind of the beholder and is best left to the contributor's own judgment. Conversely, the person being insulted should do everything in their power to resist succumbing to the urge to respond. What is an insult? Some insults are blatantly obvious. Other comments are insulting to no one, except those cannot abide humor or criticism. Other If a person is a jerk, just stay away from them, no matter how they might provoke you.	+ Differences of opinion will arise from time to time. This is a Good thing. However, just because contributors have strongly opposing beliefs on a topic does not permit them to engage in personal insults, either explicit or implicit. What is implicit? Well that is in the mind of the beholder and is best left to the contributor's own judgment. Conversely, the person being insulted should do everything in their power to resist succumbing to the urge to respond. What is an insult? Some insults are blatantly obvious. Other comments are insulting to no one, except those cannot abide humor or criticism. If a person is a jerk, just stay away from them, no matter how they might provoke you. + + In other words, make every effort to be sensitive to other people's feelings, but also wear a thick skin.

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MrPhil — 2007-12-07T04:10:49Z

Exercising my right to add more information

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- Differences of opinion will arise from time to time. This is a Good thing. However, just because contributors have strongly opposing beliefs on a topic does not permit them to engage in personal insults, either explicit or implicit. Conversely, the person being insulted should do everything in their power to resist succumbing to the urge to respond. If a person is a jerk, just stay away from them, no matter how they might provoke you.	+ Differences of opinion will arise from time to time. This is a Good thing. However, just because contributors have strongly opposing beliefs on a topic does not permit them to engage in personal insults, either explicit or implicit. What is implicit? Well that is in the mind of the beholder and is best left to the contributor's own judgment. Conversely, the person being insulted should do everything in their power to resist succumbing to the urge to respond. What is an insult? Some insults are blatantly obvious. Other comments are insulting to no one, except those cannot abide humor or criticism. Other If a person is a jerk, just stay away from them, no matter how they might provoke you.

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DaveMahon — 2007-12-07T00:49:45Z

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	+ + == Don't be a Jerk == + Differences of opinion will arise from time to time. This is a Good thing. However, just because contributors have strongly opposing beliefs on a topic does not permit them to engage in personal insults, either explicit or implicit. Conversely, the person being insulted should do everything in their power to resist succumbing to the urge to respond. If a person is a jerk, just stay away from them, no matter how they might provoke you.
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	+ + That said, comments should be reasonably civil and should be relevant to the rest of the page comment. Personal grudges and in jokes, for example, don't belong on business pages. Likewise, meta-commentary should be considered eligible for deletion once the issue at hand has been resolved.

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DaveMahon — 2007-08-26T19:25:34Z

added sentence about pointlessness of editing comments

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	+ Note that deleting or editing comments isn't even effective! Changes are never lost on RocWiki (well, ["Wiki Community/Wiki Explosion" almost never]). Simply clicking the Info button allows anyone logged in to see who made which additions and deletions and when they did it and their [wiki:Wikipedia:Ip_address IP address ] at the time. It also allows your fellow editors to easily revert your changes. +

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DaveMahon — 2007-08-26T19:17:15Z

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- Whenever you have a lot of different people working on a project together, there need to be some basic rules or guidelines to keep everyone on the same page. This page covers the basics of what RocWiki Etiquette is	+ Whenever you have a lot of different people working on a project together, there need to be some basic rules or guidelines to keep everyone on the same page. This page covers the basics of RocWiki Etiquette. You may also find the lists of ["Wiki Community/Offenses" offenses] and ["Wiki Community/Not Offenses" non-offenses] helpful.
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- '''Hint:''' if ''you're'' that someone, please let them know on their user page, not the content page. This is especially true when dealing with sensational or suspicious comments. This way people won't have to sort through meta-conversations to find relevant information.	+ '''Hint:''' if ''you're'' that someone, please let them know on their user page, not the content page. This is especially true when dealing with sensational or suspicious comments. This way people won't have to sort through meta-conversations to find relevant information. When conversations get wildly out of hand on a content page, you may find the {{{[[stop]]}}} tag helpful.

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rottenchester — 2007-08-13T23:53:27Z

Linked Dave's NPOV page

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- Neutral Point of View is often abbrivated to NPOV. There are different meanings to this abbrivation on different wikis, and in newspapers or other media. In our case the section '''Fact and Opinion''' above covers out needs pretty well. as the wiki expands, and more people join, we may need to expand the definition, but things have gone well so far.	+ Neutral Point of View is often abbrivated to NPOV. See ["NPOV/Definition"] for more information.

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alexandergartley — 2007-08-11T16:58:11Z

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- RocWiki has 'user pages' (currently just the username) for users to have a page about themselves where the put information. For users that are a 'public figure' or public figures that are '''NOT''' users, it's generally good form to not edit your own page. In the near future, there will be a ["Users"] section for wiki users, separate from the please-don't-edit-about-yourself 'person' page. If you are a users, and a moderately public person, please put your "user" page as "User/WikiUserName", and leave the Your Name (With Spaces) page alone.	+ RocWiki has 'user pages' (currently just the username) for users to have a page about themselves where the put information. For users that are a 'public figure' or public figures that are '''NOT''' users, it's generally good form to not edit your own page. In the near future, there will be a ["Users"] section for wiki users, separate from the please-don't-edit-about-yourself 'person' page. If you are a user, and a moderately public person, please put your "user" page as "User/WikiUserName", and leave the Your Name (With Spaces) page alone.

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DaveMahon — 2007-08-08T06:14:49Z

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- Humor is encouraged. That being said, we also want to be the 'People's guide to Rochester". Some complaints have been filed at the ["RobertPolyn" complaints Dept.] about humor being distracting or problematic. There is a balance somewhere in there, god only knows if we'll ever find it. When in doubt, make the joke anyway, and '''someone''' will let you know if it's out of line.	+ Humor is encouraged. That being said, we also want to be the 'People's guide to Rochester". Some complaints have been filed with the [previous] ["RobertPolyn" complaints Dept.] about humor being distracting or problematic. There is a balance somewhere in there, god only knows if we'll ever find it. When in doubt, make the joke anyway, and '''someone''' will let you know if it's out of line. + + '''Hint:''' if ''you're'' that someone, please let them know on their user page, not the content page. This is especially true when dealing with sensational or suspicious comments. This way people won't have to sort through meta-conversations to find relevant information.

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RachelBlumenthal — 2007-04-26T20:44:19Z

added note at the bottom about user pages--feel free to edit if you don't agree

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	+ + Please use your user page as a place to post information about yourself (as much or as little as you want to share with us). Your user page is not the place for school projects or random non-Rochester related info.

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FarMcKon — 2007-04-13T18:33:14Z

added info on 'user' vs 'person' pages.

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	+ + == Editing your own page == + RocWiki has 'user pages' (currently just the username) for users to have a page about themselves where the put information. For users that are a 'public figure' or public figures that are '''NOT''' users, it's generally good form to not edit your own page. In the near future, there will be a ["Users"] section for wiki users, separate from the please-don't-edit-about-yourself 'person' page. If you are a users, and a moderately public person, please put your "user" page as "User/WikiUserName", and leave the Your Name (With Spaces) page alone. + + We don't have an official policy, but we will do allow contributors remove/close pages for people if they are not reasonably a 'public' figure (ie, not in the news, no newspaper article on them, not the head of a community group, company, etc) if they are asked. For public figures, the page usually end up staying after a discussion.

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StevenDibelius — 2007-03-31T15:42:06Z

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- One of the "unspoken rules" of RocWiki is that each user's comments are their own. Nobody else should edit those comments. If you disagree with an opinion expressed in a comment, just add a comment with your own opinion. This of course implies that it is also inappropriate to edit other users' comments for grammar, spelling, etc. The only acceptable edit to someone else's comment is to "wikify" page names if another page was mentioned in the comment. This enhances the interconnectedness of the wiki. Malicious editing of other users' comments is potentially a ["Wiki Community/Offenses" bannable offense].	+ One of the formerly "unspoken rules" of RocWiki is that each user's comments are their own. Nobody else should edit those comments. If you disagree with an opinion expressed in a comment, just add a comment with your own opinion. This of course implies that it is also inappropriate to edit other users' comments for grammar, spelling, etc. The only acceptable edit to someone else's comment is to "wikify" page names if another page was mentioned in the comment. This enhances the interconnectedness of the wiki. Malicious editing of other users' comments is potentially a ["Wiki Community/Offenses" bannable offense].

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RachelBlumenthal — 2007-03-31T15:30:51Z

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RachelBlumenthal — 2007-03-31T15:28:37Z

added a bit more to the 'editing comments' section--feel free to change

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rottenchester — 2007-03-31T14:44:22Z

Added a note about comments - seems like it's needed.

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- Neutral Point of View is often abbrivated to NPOV. There are different meanings to this abbrivation on different wikis, and in newspapers or other media. In our case the section '''Fact and Opinion''' above covers out needs pertty well. as the wiki expands, and more people join, we may need to expand the definition, but things have gone well so far.	+ Neutral Point of View is often abbrivated to NPOV. There are different meanings to this abbrivation on different wikis, and in newspapers or other media. In our case the section '''Fact and Opinion''' above covers out needs pretty well. as the wiki expands, and more people join, we may need to expand the definition, but things have gone well so far. + + == Editing Comments == + One of the "unspoken rules" of RocWiki is that each user's comments are their own. Nobody else should edit those comments. If you disagree with an opinion expressed in a comment, just add a comment with your own opinion.

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FarMcKon — 2007-02-18T15:10:00Z

Moved to new home, to make it eaiser to find and more useful. Added NPOV.

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- Wikiquette is short for Wiki etiquette. We don't have much of that around here. -	+ Whenever you have a lot of different people working on a project together, there need to be some basic rules or guidelines to keep everyone on the same page. This page covers the basics of what RocWiki Etiquette is
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	+ + == NPOV == + Neutral Point of View is often abbrivated to NPOV. There are different meanings to this abbrivation on different wikis, and in newspapers or other media. In our case the section '''Fact and Opinion''' above covers out needs pertty well. as the wiki expands, and more people join, we may need to expand the definition, but things have gone well so far.

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FarMcKon — 2007-02-18T15:03:00Z

Renamed from "Wikiquette" (Moved for clariity and findability)

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	+ Wikiquette is short for Wiki etiquette. We don't have much of that around here. + + + + == Humor == + Humor is encouraged. That being said, we also want to be the 'People's guide to Rochester". Some complaints have been filed at the ["RobertPolyn" complaints Dept.] about humor being distracting or problematic. There is a balance somewhere in there, god only knows if we'll ever find it. When in doubt, make the joke anyway, and '''someone''' will let you know if it's out of line. + + == Commenting on Edits == + Always supply a comment to describe what change you made to a page, even if the comment length is longer than the change itself. The comments summarize the changes and can be examined in the change-log for a page. It is much easier to find a specific change (a fictional example might be the deletion of the website for a business) if the change log included a comment that indicated that specific change. Include minor changes in comments so the search for a specific alteration can skip those entries. + + == Fact and Opinion == + Separate fact and opinion. This seems to be more of an issue on pages about businesses where an author will praise or disparage an establishment based on their own opinions. Facts include things like location, decor, and prices -- try to keep the factual part of a description bias-free, somewhat positive, or at least friendly. Opinions include the quality of services, details of an individual visit, or basically anything where another individual might have an entirely different experience. Opinions are best expressed in a Comment. Feel free to add a Comment block to the page if it's lacking one. + + == Talk, Talk Talk == + Feel free to edit anything at will, but you have to realize that the 'revert' option is easy to use, so you should comment on edits if you feel they need to be justified. + + If you see something of ''opinion'' you disagree with, comment on it in the Talk section before you just edit or edit it then leave a comment. There is nothing worse than seeing something you saw as OK changed, and not understanding why someone had a problem with the sentence or paragraph. + + == Editing to Add More Information == + Edit pages to add more information rather than remove information. If you find a factual error, you may wish to note it as a misconception and explain why it's wrong rather than just deleting it. Avoid removing facts just to parallel the structure of other pages -- start updating the other pages instead. In cases where a page needs to be cleaned up, try to move whole sentences and paragraphs instead of rephrasing: you may miss a piece of information that was important to someone else and it will seem like you arbitrarily deleted it.

Wiki Community/Etiquette

RobertPolyn — 2005-10-08T07:25:53Z

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