Wiki Community/For Editor Review/Archiving Comments

Archiving Comments

PURPOSE:

• Reduce base page clutter due to length of comments sections
  

• Improve accuracy by separating out possible outdated comments
  

• First focus on Restaurants

IMPLEMENTATION:

• Cut the comments starting at the HR below Comments Box up to, but not including, the HR before the first comment beginning with the current year-1.
  

• Insert the following after the  [[Comments]]  line on the base page

  [https://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&file=talkicon.png] '''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''

  which will appear as

  Comments:

  Note: You must be logged in to add comments

  
  

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.


• Preview, review and save the page
  

• Click on the inserted link to the archive and create the page
  

• insert the following text at the top of the page

  The '''["<PAGENAME>"] Comments Archive''' contains comments made prior to <YEAR AFTER ARCHIVE> and was archived on <CURRENT DATE>.

which will look like

The Wiki Community/For Editor Review/Archiving Comments Comments Archive contains comments made prior to 2008 and was archived on Aug, 2, 2009.

• Paste the old comments into the new page
  

• Preview, verify, and Save the Comments Archive

OUTSTANDING ISSUES

• Macro - Ryan suggestion still on the table
  

• When - what is the practice for when the action takes place - should this be a 4th quarter action, so nothing more recent than 21 months gets archived?.
  

• Page Renames - the  /Comments  form breaks down when the base page is renamed

ACTIVE

• PeteB - working restaurants
  

• BradMandell - working the Breakfast list

COMPLETED

• Chain Restaurants - all pre-2008 entries archived as of July 27,2009 by BradMandell

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PREVIOUS DISCUSSION

Archive Comments Message

Examples and tests for Google Group Topic Adding Comments. Pete, Ryan, and Brad discussing the best solution for archiving comments. Ryan made the last suggestion, including possibility of having a macro for inserting the appropriate message.

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RYAN

Comments more than two years old have been archived at Wiki Sand Box/Comments

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PETE

ADMIN NOTE: Due to archiving purposes, comments from 2007 are now located at Wiki Sand Box/Comments

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BRAD

NOTE: for comments prior to 2008, see Comments Archive

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VARIATIONS

See Archive Page for comments more than two years old.

See Archive Page for comments more than two years old.

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.

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NOTES

BRAD: Indentation, italics, bold, color and graphics are prime tools for setting material apart and drawing user attention. I don't think that using more than two in combination is overkill in case of breaking from a standard presentation the viewer expects. Keeping such notices terse is an important user interface design concept. Most style guides recommend against use of passive voice. Style guides generally recommend bold for emphasis and italics for quotations, proper names, etc.

I recommend against putting a generic two years old because editor actions have already archived comments less than two years old (July-December 2007). Further, editors may not keep up with the archiving tasks. Hence, my recommend putting the year (or Year Month) in the message.

I assume that Ryan's macro could take an argument for the date (year or year and month). I have used the  ["/Comments"]  form as it does not require cut and paste for each operation, but assume the macro could take care of that problem automatically. Page renames break the /Comments form.


MY RECOMMENDATION (indented) Macro  [[CommentArchive(2008)]] 

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.

PeteB's CHOICE

See Archive Page for comments prior to 2008.