https://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Community/For_Editor_Review/Archiving_CommentsRecent Changes of the page "Wiki Community/For Editor Review/Archiving Comments" on Rochester Wiki.en-us https://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Community/For_Editor_Review/Archiving_Commentshttps://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Community/For_Editor_Review/Archiving_Comments?action=diff&version1=0&version2=1&ts=12492075092009-08-02T10:05:09ZBradMandellcreate page for the Archving Comments project <div id="content" class="wikipage content"> Differences for Wiki Community/For Editor Review/Archiving Comments<p><strong></strong></p><table> <tr> <td> <span> Deletions are marked with - . </span> </td> <td> <span> Additions are marked with +. </span> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Line 1: </td> <td> Line 1: </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> <span>+ =Archiving Comments=<br> + ||&lt;^ 65%&gt;[[BR]]The '''["Wiki Community/For Editor Review"] - Archiving Comments''' page describes the process of archiving older comments to a separate page {{{ /Comments }}} for readability of the base page. A project initiated by ["Users/PeteB"] from the June 2009 RocWiki Meeting with extended discussion in Google Group Topic [http://groups.google.com/group/rochesterwiki/browse_thread/thread/419141add279a3c Adding Comments]. [[BR]][[BR]]Below is the consensus decision on implementation.||&lt;33%&gt;[[TableofContents]]||<br> + <br> + ==PURPOSE:==<br> + * Reduce base page clutter due to length of comments sections<br> + * Improve accuracy by separating out possible outdated comments<br> + * First focus on Restaurants<br> + <br> + ==IMPLEMENTATION:==<br> + * Cut the comments starting at the HR below Comments Box up to, but not including, the HR before the first comment beginning with the current year-1.<br> + * Insert the following after the {{{ [[Comments]] }}} line on the base page<br> + ||{{{ [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.''' }}}||<br> + <br> + which will appear as<br> + <br> + [[Comments]]<br> + [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''<br> + * Preview, review and save the page<br> + * Click on the inserted link to the archive and create the page<br> + * insert the following text at the top of the page<br> + <br> + || {{{ The '''["&lt;PAGENAME&gt;"] Comments Archive''' contains comments made prior to &lt;YEAR AFTER ARCHIVE&gt; and was archived on &lt;CURRENT DATE&gt;. }}} ||<br> + <br> + which will look like<br> + <br> + The '''["Wiki Community/For Editor Review/Archiving Comments"] Comments Archive''' contains comments made prior to 2008 and was archived on Aug, 2, 2009.<br> + <br> + * Paste the old comments into the new page<br> + * Preview, verify, and Save the Comments Archive<br> + <br> + ==OUTSTANDING ISSUES==<br> + * '''Macro''' - Ryan suggestion still on the table<br> + * '''When''' - what is the practice for when the action takes place - should this be a 4th quarter action, so nothing more recent than 21 months gets archived?.<br> + * '''Page Renames''' - the {{{ /Comments }}} form breaks down when the base page is renamed<br> + <br> + ==ACTIVE==<br> + * ["Users/PeteB"] - working restaurants<br> + * ["Users/BradMandell"] - working the ["Breakfast"] list<br> + <br> + ==COMPLETED==<br> + * ["Chain Restaurants"] - all pre-2008 entries archived as of July 27,2009 by ["Users/BradMandell"]<br> + <br> + ----<br> + =PREVIOUS DISCUSSION=<br> + ==Archive Comments Message==<br> + Examples and tests for Google Group Topic [http://groups.google.com/group/rochesterwiki/browse_thread/thread/419141add279a3c Adding Comments]. Pete, Ryan, and Brad discussing the best solution for archiving comments. Ryan made the last suggestion, including possibility of having a macro for inserting the appropriate message.<br> + ----<br> + ===RYAN===<br> + [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] ''Comments more than two years old have been archived at ["Wiki Sand Box/Comments"]''<br> + ----<br> + ===PETE===<br> + '''ADMIN NOTE: Due to archiving purposes, comments from 2007 are now located at ["Wiki Sand Box/Comments"]'''<br> + ----<br> + ===BRAD===<br> + ||&lt;bgcolor='#FFFFAA'&gt;'''NOTE: for comments prior to 2008, see ["/Comments" Comments Archive]'''||<br> + ----<br> + ===VARIATIONS===<br> + <br> + [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] ''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments more than two years old.''<br> + <br> + ||&lt;bgcolor='#FFFFAA'&gt;[http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] ''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments more than two years old.''||<br> + <br> + ||&lt;bgcolor='#FFFFAA'&gt;[http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''||<br> + <br> + ||&lt;bgcolor='#FFFFAA'&gt;[http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] ''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.''||<br> + ||&lt;bgcolor='#FFFFAA'&gt;[http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''''||<br> + <br> + [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] ''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.''<br> + <br> + [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''<br> + <br> + [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''''<br> + ----<br> + ==NOTES==<br> + BRAD: Indentation, italics, bold, color and graphics are prime tools for setting material apart and drawing user attention. I don't think that using more than two in combination is overkill in case of breaking from a standard presentation the viewer expects. Keeping such notices terse is an important user interface design concept. Most style guides recommend against use of passive voice. Style guides generally recommend bold for emphasis and italics for quotations, proper names, etc.<br> + I recommend against putting a generic two years old because editor actions have already archived comments less than two years old (July-December 2007). Further, editors may not keep up with the archiving tasks. Hence, my recommend putting the year (or Year Month) in the message.<br> + I assume that Ryan's macro could take an argument for the date (year or year and month). I have used the {{{ ["/Comments"] }}} form as it does not require cut and paste for each operation, but assume the macro could take care of that problem automatically. Page renames break the /Comments form.<br> + '''MY RECOMMENDATION''' (indented) Macro {{{ [[CommentArchive(2008)]] }}}<br> + <br> + ||&lt;bgcolor='#FFFFAA'&gt;[http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''||<br> + <br> + '''PeteB's CHOICE'''<br> + <br> + [http://rocwiki.org/Wiki_Settings/Images?sendfile=true&amp;file=talkicon.png] '''See ["/Comments" Archive Page] for comments prior to 2008.'''</span> </td> </tr> </table> </div>