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Damiankumor — 2014-04-25T03:16:04Z

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	+ ------ + ''2014-04-24 23:16:04'' [[nbsp]] What event are you talking about? Where is the original material? Considering its advertising an event would that consistite fair use? The ip is attached to the username and the in changes page for the events. All of this is publicly available. --["Users/Damiankumor"]

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BarbaraEllen — 2014-04-25T02:10:56Z

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	+ ------ + ''2014-04-24 22:10:56'' [[nbsp]] Oh - and how can I obtain the IP address of the person who posted this? --["Users/BarbaraEllen"]

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BarbaraEllen — 2014-04-25T02:10:22Z

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	+ ------ + ''2014-04-24 22:10:22'' [[nbsp]] Hey RocWiki - Who do I talk to if another RocWiki user has stolen my writing and used it to post on the Events Calendar? I'd like this event removed. Thx!! --["Users/BarbaraEllen"]

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peteb — 2013-02-21T21:44:29Z

Revert to version 60 (I've got this handled).

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- ------ - ''2013-02-21 15:53:55'' [[nbsp]] Hi all, - - - Megan DeMarco from the Democrat and Chronicle here. I’m working on a story about the East Ave Wegmans closing, but more generally about Wegmans role in the Rochester community. What is the reason for the love affair with Wegmans in Rochester? Why are people here so invested in and loyal to Wegmans? - - I would love to talk to someone from Roc Wiki about this – since your site has the pulse of the culture in Rochester, I would think one of your editors could offer some great expertise on this. - - I’ll be working on the story today, tomorrow and Saturday, so if someone gets back to me that would be great. mdemarco2@democratandchronicle.com. - - Thanks so much, - - Megan - --["Users/MeganDeMarco"]

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MeganDeMarco — 2013-02-21T20:53:55Z

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	+ ------ + ''2013-02-21 15:53:55'' [[nbsp]] Hi all, + + + Megan DeMarco from the Democrat and Chronicle here. I’m working on a story about the East Ave Wegmans closing, but more generally about Wegmans role in the Rochester community. What is the reason for the love affair with Wegmans in Rochester? Why are people here so invested in and loyal to Wegmans? + + I would love to talk to someone from Roc Wiki about this – since your site has the pulse of the culture in Rochester, I would think one of your editors could offer some great expertise on this. + + I’ll be working on the story today, tomorrow and Saturday, so if someone gets back to me that would be great. mdemarco2@democratandchronicle.com. + + Thanks so much, + + Megan + --["Users/MeganDeMarco"]

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BradMandell — 2010-03-26T20:41:17Z

Revert to version 56 (more spam from healthaccuity).

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- ------ - ''2010-03-26 16:24:45'' [[nbsp]] Seeking adult individuals with COPD - We are looking for adult individuals with COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) that may be eligible to participate in a 2 hour in person interview for $150. - Details: - - You will be paid $150 dollars for a 2 hour in person interview - - The program is fully HIPAA compliant. We never reveal any details about you without written - agreement. - - You must be at least 18 years of age to qualify - - Your caregiver may also receive $50 for participating - If interested, please contact us at 1-866-319-5851 or email us at surveys@healthacuity.com - --["Users/HealthAcuity"] - ------ - ''2010-03-26 16:26:56'' [[nbsp]] Seeking adult individuals with Neuromuscular Disease - We are looking for adult individuals with Neuromuscular Disease that may be eligible to participate in a 2 hour in person interview for $150. - Details: - - You will be paid $150 dollars for a 2 hour in person interview - - The program is fully HIPAA compliant. We never reveal any details about you without written - agreement. - - You must be at least 18 years of age to qualify - - Your caregiver may also receive $50 for participating - If interested, please contact us at 1-866-319-5851 or email us at surveys@healthacuity.com - --["Users/HealthAcuity"] - ------ - ''2010-03-26 16:27:25'' [[nbsp]] Seeking Parents of Children with Neuromuscular Disease - We are looking for Parents of Children with Neuromuscular that may be eligible to participate in a 2 hour in person interview for $150. - Details: - - You will be paid $150 dollars for a 2 hour in person interview with your child - - The program is fully HIPAA compliant. We never reveal any details about you without written - agreement - If interested, please contact us at 1-866-319-5851 or email us at surveys@healthacuity.com - --["Users/HealthAcuity"]

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HealthAcuity — 2010-03-26T20:27:25Z

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HealthAcuity — 2010-03-26T20:26:56Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-03-26 16:26:56'' [[nbsp]] Seeking adult individuals with Neuromuscular Disease + We are looking for adult individuals with Neuromuscular Disease that may be eligible to participate in a 2 hour in person interview for $150. + Details: + - You will be paid $150 dollars for a 2 hour in person interview + - The program is fully HIPAA compliant. We never reveal any details about you without written + agreement. + - You must be at least 18 years of age to qualify + - Your caregiver may also receive $50 for participating + If interested, please contact us at 1-866-319-5851 or email us at surveys@healthacuity.com + --["Users/HealthAcuity"]

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HealthAcuity — 2010-03-26T20:24:45Z

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	+ ------ + ''2010-03-26 16:24:45'' [[nbsp]] Seeking adult individuals with COPD + We are looking for adult individuals with COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) that may be eligible to participate in a 2 hour in person interview for $150. + Details: + - You will be paid $150 dollars for a 2 hour in person interview + - The program is fully HIPAA compliant. We never reveal any details about you without written + agreement. + - You must be at least 18 years of age to qualify + - Your caregiver may also receive $50 for participating + If interested, please contact us at 1-866-319-5851 or email us at surveys@healthacuity.com + --["Users/HealthAcuity"]

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ReyTucker — 2010-03-26T20:00:02Z

changing to point at the mailing list a bit

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- This page is where differences in opinions about RocWiki pages are resolved, and notes are left from one contributor to another related to content.	+ This page used to be where differences in opinions about RocWiki pages were resolved, and notes were left from one contributor to another related to content. However, nowadays, you probably want to try the ["Wiki Community/Mailing List" Mailing List].

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peteb — 2010-03-26T19:27:28Z

Revert to version 53 (Removed spam).

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HealthAcuity — 2010-03-26T19:01:27Z

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BradMandell — 2010-02-09T22:04:28Z

doc old pagenames and then delete them

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TinyPliny — 2009-09-01T15:52:24Z

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	+ ------ + ''2009-09-01 11:52:24'' [[nbsp]] Is there some way to delete the revision history of personal info? --["Users/TinyPliny"]

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ReyTucker — 2009-01-11T20:35:01Z

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	+ ------ + ''2009-01-11 15:35:01'' [[nbsp]] ShawnaLusk: Might be a good idea to try clearing out the cookies... when we moved servers waaaaay back in May, there were a few cases where old cookies caused problems. Should be all set now, but you never know. If that doesn't do it, e-mail me ([[MailTo(rtucker AT gmail DOT com)]]) with your IP address and I'll see if there's anything interesting in the logs... --["Users/RyanTucker"]

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shawnalusk — 2009-01-05T13:56:33Z

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	+ ------ + ''2009-01-05 08:56:33'' [[nbsp]] I need some help from an experienced Wiki-er. I went into my account at home and went to delete a comment I had made in August after realizing I commented twice on the same restaurant. I'm not sure what I did but now I can't get the site to come up at all- I can get to the front page if I quit out of my browser and then go back. However, when I go to log in or look at recent changes it gives me only a blank screen. Any ideas? I can get into my account with no problem at work, so I am wondering if it's something with the IP address or cookie on my home machine. --["Users/ShawnaLusk"]

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JosephFerrara — 2008-12-05T18:17:47Z

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	+ ------ + ''2008-12-05 13:17:47'' [[nbsp]] cannot edit the events page. only last listing shows up. need to make a correction on a listing I posted --["Users/JosephFerrara"]

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JaneDever — 2008-08-12T17:43:08Z

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	+ ------ + ''2008-08-12 13:43:08'' [[nbsp]] I think that your restaurant reviews should start with the most recent and not with the oldest submitted. --["Users/JaneDever"]

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DaveMahon — 2008-07-28T10:00:25Z

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	+ ------ + ''2008-07-28 06:00:25'' [[nbsp]] Any objection to adding the sentence ''The appearance of a company, agency, product, service, community or endeavor on this site does not constitute endorsement of RocWiki.'' to the disclaimer paragraph at the top of the page? --["Users/DaveMahon"]

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BradMandell — 2008-07-13T12:31:52Z

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	+ ------ + ''2008-07-13 08:31:52'' [[nbsp]] Some of editors, including myself, keep an eye on Recent Changes and become more "interactively" involved in their contributions. I believe this is a great tradition for collaborative effort. However, interaction among the editors is somewhat cumbersome - they must comment on the Talk page of an active entry, post comments in each other's user page, etc. Currently, multiple editors can be editing a page at the same time. Some wiki sites have a related forum for interactive discussions about editing of entries (vs comments containing content). We have the Google Group, but it is not very interactive. Perhaps a page ["RocWiki Editing Today"] could be a place where active editors could post their current planned activity, coordinate work on entries (or related entries) and build a historical record of the growth of RocWiki. Any Thoughts. --["Users/BradMandell"]

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DaveMahon — 2008-04-22T02:28:51Z

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- ''2008-04-21 21:26:34'' [[nbsp]] I'd like to add the following disclaimer to the top bit of the page[[BR]][[BR]]: Contributors to this site may or may not have an interest in a company or product they are discussing. We do not guarantee the veracity, reliability or completeness of any information provided on our site or in any hyperlink appearing on our site.[[Footnote("Many thanks to [http://tech.slashdot.org/about.shtml]")]] Comments are the personal opinions of their respective authors. --["DaveMahon"]	+ ''2008-04-21 21:26:34'' [[nbsp]] I'd like to add the following disclaimer to the top bit of the page: ''Contributors to this site may or may not have an interest in a company, agency, product, service, community or endeavor they are discussing. We do not guarantee the veracity, reliability or completeness of any information provided on our site or in any hyperlink appearing on our site.''[[Footnote(Many thanks to [http://tech.slashdot.org/about.shtml])]]'' Comments are the personal opinions of their respective authors.'' --["DaveMahon"]

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DaveMahon — 2008-04-22T02:26:34Z

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	+ ------ + ''2008-04-21 21:26:34'' [[nbsp]] I'd like to add the following disclaimer to the top bit of the page[[BR]][[BR]]: Contributors to this site may or may not have an interest in a company or product they are discussing. We do not guarantee the veracity, reliability or completeness of any information provided on our site or in any hyperlink appearing on our site.[[Footnote("Many thanks to [http://tech.slashdot.org/about.shtml]")]] Comments are the personal opinions of their respective authors. --["DaveMahon"]

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rottenchester — 2007-08-02T18:23:52Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-02 14:23:52'' [[nbsp]] I agree with Dave. --["RottenChester"]

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DaveMahon — 2007-08-02T17:01:38Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-02 13:01:38'' [[nbsp]] Personal redaction of comments isn't a big deal. Sometimes our opinions change and our feedback should reflect that. Just don't go editing or deleting the comments of others unless absolutely necessary (gross violations of etiquette, etc). --["DaveMahon"]

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JasonOlshefsky — 2007-08-02T13:00:06Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-08-02 09:00:06'' [[nbsp]] What's the etiquette on deleting your own comments? In the most recent revision of ["ReHouse"] that's what Jeff did. --["JasonOlshefsky"]

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RachelBlumenthal — 2007-03-28T17:57:00Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-03-28 12:57:00'' [[nbsp]] Interesting, thanks! Looks like I'm crazy after all...the page I thought I made seems to have never existed... --["RachelBlumenthal"]

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StevenDibelius — 2007-03-28T16:28:43Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-03-28 11:28:43'' [[nbsp]] If you think a page existed once, you can go to that page and instead of creating a new page, click the Info button. It will show you the revision history, if there is one, including if the page once existed and was deleted. As for a log of deleted pages, I'm not sure. --["StevenDibelius"]

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RachelBlumenthal — 2007-03-28T14:39:17Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-03-28 09:39:17'' [[nbsp]] Would it be possible to have a deleted page log (or does one already exist and I just can't find it)? There have been a few times when I thought I made a page in the past but it either mysteriously disappeared or I'm just losing my mind, and I'd like to know which... :) --["RachelBlumenthal"]

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FarMcKon — 2007-03-24T17:01:23Z

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- ''2007-03-24 12:00:53'' [[nbsp]] Well, Having an 'include stub' is useful, so that people can check the page [Stub Pages List] if they want to work on a page needing some help. That said, I'm not sure how I feel about the 'stub box'. At the least it gets in the way when viewing pages on small devices (cell phones). --["FarMcKon"]	+ ''2007-03-24 12:00:53'' [[nbsp]] Well, Having an 'include stub' is useful, so that people can check the page ["Stub Pages List"] if they want to work on a page needing some help. That said, I'm not sure how I feel about the 'stub box'. At the least it gets in the way when viewing pages on small devices (cell phones). --["FarMcKon"]

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FarMcKon — 2007-03-24T17:00:53Z

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benmargolis — 2007-03-23T02:24:10Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-03-22 21:24:10'' [[nbsp]] Almost all articles on the wiki are stubs... I don't think there's a huge benefit for marking the pages as such. Just go to any random page and it could use some more information just from a little research. --["BenMargolis"]

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FarMcKon — 2007-03-22T00:23:55Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-03-21 19:23:55'' [[nbsp]] I'm not such a fan of the Stub include on the top, I'd like to stuggest we plug it at the bottom, so it's less in-your-face. --["FarMcKon"]

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FarMcKon — 2007-03-22T00:23:01Z

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- ------ - ''2007-01-24 17:36:18'' [[nbsp]] On the subject of deleting pages for things that no longer exist in the Rochester area---how about redirecting the current page to the 'lost but not forgotten page' and adding a note at the top of it regarding "if you've reached this page, then (perhaps) sadly...". That will allow links to the page to still serve a use, and not bring up 'Create this page'. Existing links pointing to the dead page, all those not yet pruned, would not yield such a confusing result that way, and the same goes for external links pointing at wiki content. $.02 --["RobertPolyn"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 18:03:25'' [[nbsp]] The ones I deleted no longer serve a purpose... --["PeterBoulay"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 19:34:43'' [[nbsp]] Not denying that at all, but I think having the page point to the (corrected from above) 'Gone, but not forgotten' page would serve the wiki best---allowing anyone directed to what once had been a page to know that it no longer exists. Navigating to a deleted page (say through Google) will display 'Create this page'. If instead of deleting the page redirection was used, I think that would be more useful. The more I think of it, the less I like the idea of deleting pages at all, but I think redirection is a solid middle ground. --["RobertPolyn"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 19:42:48'' [[nbsp]] I am really against deleting anything. I don't know anything about the technical side of things--are we worried about wasting space? Anyway, here's an example: if I move away and come back in a few years and try to look up the info for a restaurant I used to like, I'd find it really frustrating to find the "Creat this page" page. I'd want to know when it closed, why, if it relocated, etc. The wiki has plenty of pages pertaining to Rochester's history, and I think restaurants and stores that have closed belong to that history just as much as anything else, regardless of how long they were open. Somewhere out there, there's someone who's interested to know the details of what happened to a particular business. Anyway, as long as there are no technical cons to keeping around old pages, I really would like to at least see redirection, but I'd prefer to just keep the pages. That way, people can discuss why they closed, if they're ever re-opening, etc. --["RachelBlumenthal"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 19:51:19'' [[nbsp]] If you unlink the dead ones there's nothing to navigate to... :) My idea-come to the next meeting and we'll all discuss it --["PeterBoulay"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 21:44:59'' [[nbsp]] My $.02: I'm OK with deleting a page that has absolutely no original content. For example, a page that has nothing but, say, an address and phone number. Anything else should be retained with a note that it closed. Also, I agree with Robert that we should hash this out here, because few people come to wiki meetups. --["RottenChester"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 22:22:46'' [[nbsp]] Is there a way to delete all past revisions and just keep the final revision for places that have closed? That should save some space if space is the problem. I also agree that final decisions should be made here--I, for one, did not consider going to the meet-up because it sounded like it was focused more on the technical aspects of the wiki, but I'd be happy to go to meet-ups to talk about the general direction in which the wiki is headed. --["RachelBlumenthal"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 23:36:14'' [[nbsp]] I agree with RottenChester. If the page had no original content, I don't see any reason to keep it around if the business it refers to has closed. However, people seem to really want to keep pages, and I'd be surprised if space was an issue, so if people really want to keep everything then I guess that's fine. I also agree with Rachel that meetings always sound like they're focused on the technical aspects of the site. I'd be more inclined to go to meetings which also included the non-technical aspects of the site. --["StevenDibelius"] - ------ - ''2007-01-24 23:52:14'' [[nbsp]] The last couple Wiki Development meetings have included both tech and non tech stuff. Future meetings can be segmented so that tech talk is scheduled for the first hour and community stuff the second. This would allow folks to come and go based on their interest. - - While the meetings are good time to bring these issues up, I also agree that we should hash this out on the site. I favor a no delete policy that redirects pages lacking substantial content to a ''Gone, but not forgotten page'' (this means leaving the original content and adding a redirect flag). Pages that have substantial content and/or discussion should be left. --["AdamDewitz"] - ------ - ''2007-01-25 10:05:57'' [[nbsp]] Add me to the "Do Not Delete" team. Even if a page has nothing in it, who is to say someone won't add something later? Case and point, Dicky's bar on Meigs. That was where the kid got stabbed last year was it? It must have been deleted because I can't find it. What if the murder was caught? Someone might want to add that info to the page. No place really to add it to now... --["Roc4Life"] - ------ - ''2007-01-25 12:03:14'' [[nbsp]] Now that we've heard support for and arguments in favor of not deleting pages, as well as positive views of redirection, can we have a summary of reasons why people believe pages should deleted? Advantages of deletion and advantages of deletion over redirection would be useful. --["RobertPolyn"] - ------ - ''2007-01-25 13:32:46'' [[nbsp]] If you want reasons for why pages should be deleted, I don't have any for you. My opinion is just more out of apathy. I don't think it's a crisis if the pages in question get deleted. At the same time, I don't think it's hurting anything by keeping them. Ultimately, I don't think this decision has any significant effects on rocwiki, so I don't care much what people decide. As a side note/response to Roc4Life, you can get to the old Dicky's page by searching "Dicky's", clicking create a new page, and clicking the Info button. You'll then see the revision history of the page, and can revert it back to a state where it did exist. I'm not interested in debating whether or not someone should have to go through that process to get to such a page. I'm just providing information. --["StevenDibelius"] - ------ - ''2007-01-25 17:19:40'' [[nbsp]] This 'keepers' vs 'deletes' is a ranging issue on wikipedia too. I think out 'keep it if there is more than a line or two' is a good (and smart) compromise. IF you want to keep a page around, add more info to it! Me, I'm not going to spend time going around deleting pages that meet that criteria, but if someone else wants to as a hobby, go-for-it! --["FarMcKon"] - ------ - ''2007-01-31 14:55:45'' [[nbsp]] Out of curiosity, why did you feel it was important to get rid of the ["Democrat and Chronicle"] redirect to ["Democrat & Chronicle"]? --["StevenDibelius"] - - ''2007-01-31 15:09:59'' [[nbsp]] 1) I updated all the wiki links to point to the actual article. So nothing was linking to it 2.) Minimize noise factor when doing a search for Democrat and Chronicle. If you think it should be kept, the delete can be reverted. --["AdamDewitz"] - - ''2007-01-31 17:41:25'' [[nbsp]] I assumed that your reason #1 went along with why you deleted the redirect, so I understand that. As for noise factor, I don't really see that as a problem; I imagine most people would just figure out that either link got them to the D&C article. I think having the redirect is valuable because it makes wiki-linking easier. If you have commonly used names redirecting to the article with the proper name, people can easily link to the correct article without needing to figure out what the exact name of the article is. I guess that would turn the discussion into which is more valuable: having a less cluttered search or having an easy time making wiki-links. My personal opinion is the latter is more valuable. --["StevenDibelius"] - good point. reverted --["AdamDewitz"] - ------ - ''2007-02-02 12:27:30'' [[nbsp]] Hey, I have a question about "wikiquette". I went on an editing spree today and there were a few times where I noticed things in people's comments that could have been made into wiki-links. Would it be rude to wiki-link words within people's comments? I wouldn't mind if someone did it to any of my comments, but what does everyone think about this? --["RachelBlumenthal"] - ------ - ''2007-02-02 13:44:24'' [[nbsp]] Sounds like a good idea Rachel. Linking is what it's all about. I wonder if there is a way to have wiki links created automatically when linkable words appear in a description or comment --["EastSideStephen"] - ------ - ''2007-02-02 13:47:26'' [[nbsp]] I think editing others' comments is a touchy subject...wiki links is probably ok... --["RottenChester"] - ------ - ''2007-02-02 14:28:27'' [[nbsp]] I'd say it's fine, because you're not changing the content of their comments. --["StevenDibelius"] - ------ - ''2007-02-02 14:34:02'' [[nbsp]] There is not function to automatically generate links. That would require a natural language processing system. Maybe we can get Far to work on it ;) --["AdamDewitz"]

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- ''2007-01-24 19:34:43'' [[nbsp]] Not denying that at all, but I think having the page point to the (corrected from above) 'Gone, but not forgotten' page would serve the wiki best---allowing anyone directed to what once had been a page to know that it no longer exists. Navigating to a deleted page (say through Google) will display 'Create this page'. If instead of deleting the page redirection was used, I think that would be more useful. The more I think of it, the less I like the idea of deleting pages at all, but I think redirection is a solid middle ground. --["RobertPolyn"]	+ ''2007-01-24 19:34:43'' [[nbsp]] Not denying that at all, but I think having the page point to the (corrected from above) 'Gone, but not forgotten' page would serve the wiki best---allowing anyone directed to what once had been a page to know that it no longer exists. Navigating to a deleted page (say through Google) will display 'Create this page'. If instead of deleting the page redirection was used, I think that would be more useful. The more I think of it, the less I like the idea of deleting pages at all, but I think redirection is a solid middle ground. --["RobertPolyn"]
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- ------ - ''2007-01-31 15:09:59'' [[nbsp]] 1) I updated all the wiki links to point to the actual article. So nothing was linking to it 2.) Minimize noise factor when doing a search for Democrat and Chronicle. If you think it should be kept, the delete can be reverted. --["AdamDewitz"] - ------ - ''2007-01-31 17:41:25'' [[nbsp]] I assumed that your reason #1 went along with why you deleted the redirect, so I understand that. As for noise factor, I don't really see that as a problem; I imagine most people would just figure out that either link got them to the D&C article. I think having the redirect is valuable because it makes wiki-linking easier. If you have commonly used names redirecting to the article with the proper name, people can easily link to the correct article without needing to figure out what the exact name of the article is. I guess that would turn the discussion into which is more valuable: having a less cluttered search or having an easy time making wiki-links. My personal opinion is the latter is more valuable. --["StevenDibelius"]	+ + ''2007-01-31 15:09:59'' [[nbsp]] 1) I updated all the wiki links to point to the actual article. So nothing was linking to it 2.) Minimize noise factor when doing a search for Democrat and Chronicle. If you think it should be kept, the delete can be reverted. --["AdamDewitz"] + + ''2007-01-31 17:41:25'' [[nbsp]] I assumed that your reason #1 went along with why you deleted the redirect, so I understand that. As for noise factor, I don't really see that as a problem; I imagine most people would just figure out that either link got them to the D&C article. I think having the redirect is valuable because it makes wiki-linking easier. If you have commonly used names redirecting to the article with the proper name, people can easily link to the correct article without needing to figure out what the exact name of the article is. I guess that would turn the discussion into which is more valuable: having a less cluttered search or having an easy time making wiki-links. My personal opinion is the latter is more valuable. --["StevenDibelius"] + good point. reverted --["AdamDewitz"]

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	+ ------ + ''2007-01-25 17:19:40'' [[nbsp]] This 'keepers' vs 'deletes' is a ranging issue on wikipedia too. I think out 'keep it if there is more than a line or two' is a good (and smart) compromise. IF you want to keep a page around, add more info to it! Me, I'm not going to spend time going around deleting pages that meet that criteria, but if someone else wants to as a hobby, go-for-it! --["FarMcKon"]

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	+ ------ + ''2007-01-25 13:32:46'' [[nbsp]] If you want reasons for why pages should be deleted, I don't have any for you. My opinion is just more out of apathy. I don't think it's a crisis if the pages in question get deleted. At the same time, I don't think it's hurting anything by keeping them. Ultimately, I don't think this decision has any significant effects on rocwiki, so I don't care much what people decide. As a side note/response to Roc4Life, you can get to the old Dicky's page by searching "Dicky's", clicking create a new page, and clicking the Info button. You'll then see the revision history of the page, and can revert it back to a state where it did exist. I'm not interested in debating whether or not someone should have to go through that process to get to such a page. I'm just providing information. --["StevenDibelius"]

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	+ ------ + ''2007-01-25 10:05:57'' [[nbsp]] Add me to the "Do Not Delete" team. Even if a page has nothing in it, who is to say someone won't add something later? Case and point, Dicky's bar on Meigs. That was where the kid got stabbed last year was it? It must have been deleted because I can't find it. What if the murder was caught? Someone might want to add that info to the page. No place really to add it to now... --["Roc4Life"]

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	+ ------ + ''2007-01-24 23:52:14'' [[nbsp]] The last couple Wiki Development meetings have included both tech and non tech stuff. Future meetings can be segmented so that tech talk is scheduled for the first hour and community stuff the second. This would allow folks to come and go based on their interest. + + While the meetings are good time to bring these issues up, I also agree that we should hash this out on the site. I favor a no delete policy that redirects pages lacking substantial content to a ''Gone, but not forgotten page'' (this means leaving the original content and adding a redirect flag). Pages that have substantial content and/or discussion should be left. --["AdamDewitz"]

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- ''2007-01-24 23:36:14'' [[nbsp]] I agree with RottenChester. If the page had no original content, I don't see any reason to keep it around if the business it refers to has closed. However, people seem to really want to keep pages, and I'd be surprised if space was an issue, so if people really want to keep everything then I guess that's fine. I also agree with Rachel that meetings always sound like their focused on the technical aspects of the site. I'd be more inclined to go to meetings which also included the non-technical aspects of the site. --["StevenDibelius"]	+ ''2007-01-24 23:36:14'' [[nbsp]] I agree with RottenChester. If the page had no original content, I don't see any reason to keep it around if the business it refers to has closed. However, people seem to really want to keep pages, and I'd be surprised if space was an issue, so if people really want to keep everything then I guess that's fine. I also agree with Rachel that meetings always sound like they're focused on the technical aspects of the site. I'd be more inclined to go to meetings which also included the non-technical aspects of the site. --["StevenDibelius"]

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	+ ------ + ''2007-01-24 22:22:46'' [[nbsp]] Is there a way to delete all past revisions and just keep the final revision for places that have closed? That should save some space if space is the problem. I also agree that final decisions should be made here--I, for one, did not consider going to the meet-up because it sounded like it was focused more on the technical aspects of the wiki, but I'd be happy to go to meet-ups to talk about the general direction in which the wiki is headed. --["RachelBlumenthal"]

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	+ ------ + ''2007-01-24 21:44:59'' [[nbsp]] My $.02: I'm OK with deleting a page that has absolutely no original content. For example, a page that has nothing but, say, an address and phone number. Anything else should be retained with a note that it closed. Also, I agree with Robert that we should hash this out here, because few people come to wiki meetups. --["RottenChester"]

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RobertPolyn — 2007-01-25T00:49:54Z

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	+ ------ + ''2007-01-24 19:34:43'' [[nbsp]] Not denying that at all, but I think having the page point to the (corrected from above) 'Gone, but not forgotten' page would serve the wiki best---allowing anyone directed to what once had been a page to know that it no longer exists. Navigating to a deleted page (say through Google) will display 'Create this page'. If instead of deleting the page redirection was used, I think that would be more useful. The more I think of it, the less I like the idea of deleting pages at all, but I think redirection is a solid middle ground. --["RobertPolyn"]

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peteb — 2006-11-22T19:43:11Z

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	+ ------ + ''2006-11-22 14:43:11'' [[nbsp]] One request-when people add new pages please link them to a section appropriately. A Restaurant or Barbershop with no link to those sections goes unused and is pretty much worthless. Thx! --["PeterBoulay"]

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FarMcKon — 2005-12-15T17:16:22Z

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rottenchester — 2005-11-26T18:44:21Z

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rottenchester — 2005-11-26T18:41:50Z

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	+ == Talk Page== + This page is where differences in opinions about RocWiki pages are resolved, and notes are left from one contributor to another related to content. + + [[Comments(Talk about the parent page:)]]